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    I think it would be very likely that we could become self-sufficient using nuclear power and coal for electricity and natural gas for fuel for our vehicles.
    Interesting that you consider three of the most destructive and polluting energy sources to be our only path to self-sufficiency.
    I'm hardly surprised.
    France uses nuclear generation for most of their electricity needs. It is doable.

    We have enough coal right here to last for hundreds of years.

    The same thing for natural gas.

    All three of these forms of energy have a proven track record. They work and they are cheap.

    I'm sorry but your green energy-- solar and windmills-- just don't work. The sun eventually sets at night, and the wind stops blowing from time to time.

    If your side could come up with something that actually worked and was cheap then we would get behind it. But so far, all you offer us is more expensive and less reliable energy.
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    All three of these forms of energy have a proven track record. They work and they are cheap.
    All three forms of energy are only "cheap" when you ignore the environmental impact of producing them...which you seem completely willing to do.
    As for "reliable", explain this, please.
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    One of the weakest positions possible in a debate. You would have to take a random snipit from one of 9's posts to get any weaker.
    Yeah! Take that Mr. YoYo!

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    Ghey lumberjacks, wolverines, blackflies in the summer, polar bears in the winter, that's basically Canada in a nutshell.

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    All three of these forms of energy have a proven track record. They work and they are cheap.
    All three forms of energy are only "cheap" when you ignore the environmental impact of producing them...which you seem completely willing to do. So, you want to pay more for electricity and gasoline? I have lot more fun things to spend my money on than that, and our economic system only works if the basics-- such as energy-- remain cheap and affordable for businesses and for the masses, because if the masses have to spend too much of their paycheck on energy, then they can't buy our steaks, and that wouldn't be good for business. Do you see how this works? And do you see why green energy wouldn't work?

    As for "reliable", explain this, please. or this? http://www.azcentral.com/business/ar...customers.html The Springerville/Eagar generating station had a brief moment of unreliability mainly because they were not prepared for the huge demand caused by cold weather which we know is really global warming. So, should the Springerville/Eagar station be shut down and abandoned? No, it should be beefed up so it can handle anything that global warming, er global cooling? throws at it.
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    And you forgot to mention what you think of France using nuclear power for their electricity needs.
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    Yeah! Take that Mr. YoYo!

    I know! It made me laugh, too.

    Now, where is Mr. YoYo?
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    And you forgot to mention what you think of France using nuclear power for their electricity needs.
    I admit to being conflicted about nuclear power.
    Given the absolutely horrific ecological record of normal public utilities, I sure as hell wouldn't let private industry have anything to do with it, so we're talking about government control...is that something you're good with?
    I've yet to hear any solution to the waste issue either.
    Apparently, Nevada isn't real hot on being the waste dump for the nation...maybe Eagar would like to step up?
    And there is still the water issue- reactors need a LOT of water for cooling, so access to a reliable supply, either the ocean or rivers is required and that seriously restricts available locations.
    This would require a major upgrade of transmission capability, again this means a coordinated national (i.e., gubmint) program.

    So, as I said, conflicted.
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    Don't forget about those sneeky, sneeky terrorists, clocker. We must "never forget" about the terrorists.
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    Ghey lumberjacks, wolverines, blackflies in the summer, polar bears in the winter, that's basically Canada in a nutshell.

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    If I were a terrorist, intent on screwing up America, I'd sit in my cave and write checks to Republicans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clocker View Post
    If I were a terrorist, intent on screwing up America, I'd sit in my cave and write checks to Republicans.
    I'm fairly certain that is common practice.
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    It's working, so I'm sure it is.

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