Why I Feel That Console Gaming Is Better Then Pc

[Stonecoldfreak1]

Originally posted by TheCanuk@9 November 2003 - 01:05
the reason pc's will always over run consoles is

#1 aiming on pc's is way way way way way betterx50000 instead of that fuckin retarded aiming with that little fucktaded stick on the middle of it. how the fuck am i suppose 2 aim with that??

your complaing about consoles when you cant even use a mouse to begin with?

[InverseKinetix]

Isnt Micro$oft stopping development of DirectX at version 10? I read that somewhere.

As for PC vs Console, I can't see what the argument is. Theyre both f**king great. Just better for different kind of gameplay. Theres no doubt that Pc's rock when it comes to online multiplayer gaming, and consoles are great for all games but they lack the online capabilities now.

I have x box ps2 and 2 kick ass pc's, I love playing them all. BTW unreal and quake looks awesome on a 1.5 metre data projector display, so does Halo and Marvel vs X men 2.

Its kind of funny, I wonder if there was this kind of debate when we had the choice of a commodore64 or a famicon.

[silent VI]

thers is no better you cannot compare a console to a pc think about it there in ther own leauge i thin kthere all great (nintendo company eas shit) i couldnt be without my ps2 i love my xbox and i love my pc all the same i wouldnt choise either 1 of them over the other

[Pitbul]

Originally posted by Vamp@8 November 2003 - 16:34
See, you're a moron... You cannot make an intelligable comment... Stop blaming the controllers, that's the biggest exscuse you console-haters come up with... Do you own any consoles? You get used to the controls... If you can't then you have carpal tunnel syndrome... You can buy the smaller Xbox S Controller, or get the the Triscenian Chaos adapter which allows you to use PS2 or Dreamcast Controllers... The default controllers for Xbox are awesome, I got used to them the second I touched them. And Halo is not the only good game.


Splinter Cell
Silent Hill 2
Hitman 2
Shenmue
Dead To Rights
Fatal Frame

etc.

And by the way, when you play on a 150cm screen, nothing beats those graphics. Ign even gave Halo on PC lower points for graphics then the Xbox version.

The main reason I play games is because it acts as an interactive movie. I like games because of the storyline and fun... I can't stand playing games with no storyline against other people.

Edit: Sorry Stonecold! Not you! I'm talking about JoeyIpod, who's trying to make himself feel good by bashing consoles because he doesn't have one and will never be able to play revolutionary games the way they should be played!

i'll tell you right now. take your own advice you fuckin moron. IGN gave halo lower graphical pionts because they did not improve the graphics for PC. they only got as good as they do on the X-Box cause bungee was cheap and didn't want the hassel of going all through coding and on. if they did then it would have been a completely diffrent story. and you sayin a good Gaming PC cant compare to console gaming cause of price? well i got a P4 2.4 533MHz FSB PC with 1 gig DDR RAM a 9800 XT a 80 gig HDD a CD-RW and DVD-ROM for $1000. not to mention i'll have graphics on this PC you wont see surpassed till the next gen consoles roll out in 2 years. not to mention that extra programming and all kinds of features having to be turned down on the upcoming titles like Doom 3 and HL2 (whenever the fuck its out) for the X-Box cause it cant handle them power wise. as far as controllers go. yes Console controllers fair well "somtimes" given the devs put effort into them. other then that i prefer a mouse for more control. just about anyone who has a little expierence would own anybody on a console controller in an Online match in Halo. also count your consoles all for its original retail. the ps2 was 300 and so was the X-Box and the dreamcast well its so old just count it as 50 dollars. now add that oh so impressive 70+ inch TV (he must like man dick cause when he watches porn he likes to see it as detailed as possible) then any sound system? now add any online charges for X-Box live or the Online Adapter for the Ps2 then monthly internet cost. how much is that? not only that but a TV's res is limited so everything wont be as detailed which is good cause most consoles aren't ment to go any higher on res or they loose FPS. unlike most PC's which can go way beyond a TV's res. before you say i hate consoles oh so much i do own a Ps2 and play it somewhat often. i only reply cause you talk out of your ass and you act like a console is a god send spoutin off your mouth rather quick. their are some good games coming out for the Ps2 and one im eagerly anticipating is Killzone and second would be MGS3 a few others but not to important to list. but what about Doom 3 which is coming to PC first? or HL2? for Far Cry which i think is PC only. same with Deus Ex 2: IW? and Medal Of Honor Pacific Assualt? thats a PC Exclusive. the devs are making Rising Sun for consoles but its short and nowhere near as advance as PA. for one PA has way better graphics. second it has the new Havok 2.0 engine. that and the facial movements are detail are almost exactly like HL2. while if you watch a trailer for RS you'd laugh at it after watching the PA Trailer.

[TheDave]

ooh, i just thought of an arguement.

a console costs about £100, but an equivilent pc cost £100s more

i just read and everyone made that point. i suck

[Formula1]

Originally posted by Vamp@8 November 2003 - 22:01
What I Own

I own the 3 best consoles

PS2
Xbox
Dreamcast (I refuse to buy a gamecube because there are no games on it that appeal to me&#33

I play them all on a 150CM (around 74") TV with a dolby surround 5:1 sound setup. All my consoles are chipped so I can play copies on them.

I also have a relativly good PC, and I honestly say that Console gaming far surpasses PC Gaming.

Why?

With console games you just pop the CD into your system and you're ready to play without having to install and without having to pray to God that the game will run nicely.

I prefer playing FPS's on consoles with the Controllers to playing with a Keyboard and Mouse...With Halo on Xbox, my thumbs adapt easily to the controls while on PC I find it more harder to play. (maybe because there is a shorter distance between keys on a controller then on a keyboard.)

The graphics for PS2 and Xbox on my TV are much crisper and clearer then what I can get on a 17" PC monitor (especially on Xbox) where games like Splinter Cell and Halo are far superior to the graphics on the PC version. You'll never, ever have to worry about upgrading your console to be able to play a single game or worry about hardware drivers etc, until 3 or 4 years after the latest console is released, when a new one comes out.

With split-screen multiplayer on my TV, when playing a 2 person game each person has a screen the size of a PC monitor, so that's not a problem... However 97% of the time, I'll be playing games Single Player, so let's keep this thread to just that. No Multiplayer talk.

a Geforce FX5900 costs around $400... That's the hardware alot of people say is superior to both the Xbox and PS2 graphical power, however those people forget that with that money, you can get both a PS2 and Xbox! Plus, seeing as consoles are made specifically for games and use their resources for nothing else, one cannot compare Console specs with PC specs. The Xbox has a 64MB 3D Card if I'm correct, however that plays games like Halo incredibly smoothly, while if you were to play that on a PC on high settings you'd need a 128MB card at least.

My friend spent around $2000 buying a:

P4 3.2GHZ
1 gig Ram
Geforce FX5600
500GB HD
LCD Flatron Monitor (which was a big mistake as all the games he plays seem really blurry and have transparent trails)

He is perhaps the biggest gamer I know, he owns 4 consoles (same like mine + Gamecube) and over 200 games for each, around 476 for PS2. He agrees that he prefers Console gaming because there are more experimental and original games that come out for them... However he says he'll only play FPS's on PC (Halo was an exception) I on the other hand, can play FPS's on consoles and have alot of fun. I'm indifferent to using a Keyboard and Mouse or a Controller. He is also right about the games... PC's mainly get FPS's (65%) Third Person Action/Adventure and RTS, with the odd Sports game here and there. I admit that Strategy is bad on consoles, except for Gladius, which is supposed to be quite good.

Consoles also come out first with more original games... L.A True Crimes, Cookies and Milk, Blinx the Time Sweeper, Prince Of Persia: The Sands Of Time, Silent Hill 2, This game where you draw your characters and the system places them into the game as a 3D, playable model, can't remember the name of the game though, Metal Gear Solid, Grand Theft Auto 3 and Vice City, Splinter Cell, Head-Hunter, Shenmu and Socom with it's voice-activated friendly AI etc.

Console games usually get higher marks then PC games for the ratio of Console games being released in contrast with PC games. Also note that Soul Calibur on Dreamcast got the coveted 10/10 on IGN.com

All the best games I've ever played appeared first on consoles before being ported to PC... And the console versions are still better.

Metal Gear Solid 2
GTA 3 and Vice City
Halo
Hitman 2
Silent Hill 2

Etc.

Onto Mods... Alot of people use this in defence of PC games. Yes, downloading new mods and levels is not so readily available on consoles as it is on PC's but it's getting there. Local magazines here in South Africa release fan-made mods and missions on a Demo CD which can be installed onto the Xbox Box, and with Xbox Live, you can download missions to games such as Splinter Cell... I can see modding on consoles to become more popular soon.

Now we come to prices.

I have a P4 1.7GHZ, 256MB DDram, 20Gig HD, 17" Monitor and a Geforce 4 MX440... This came to around $700 wholesale. (PC's are quite expensive here)

A PS2 and Xbox, chipped, would come to around $500...There you have above-PC Standard gaming at a low price and games are now practically free. Don't get me wrong, I'm not ripping PC Gaming at all... I think it's awesome, however it's just too expensive and too tedious to have to always upgrade and worry about your systems performance in games when you can just buy a console and not have to hassle over that again!

All in all, in my opinion...Consoles are better for gaming then PC's. If you're going to reply to this thread, do so in a legible and intelligable way, don't flame me or call me a N00b or some wacky crap like that. This is an in-depth debate, so if you're going to argue for or against Consoles... Do say with a backed up opinion!

Yeah you're pretty correct, and im not trying to be rude but also 50-60% of PC_GAMES_ARE_PURE_Crap , by this i am meaning that most pc games are developed by amatueur Developers (developers new to creating a game i mean). The only good types of games that Pc's tendo to have are First person shooter and MMORPG's , but as for consoles it has alot of great FROM ALL DIFFERENT types of Genre's (such as fighting , racing , rpg, platformers , action adventure and many others , which Pc's dont have).

[Psycho_Medic]

Originally posted by Vamp@8 November 2003 - 22:01
My friend spent around $2000 buying a:

P4 3.2GHZ
1 gig Ram
Geforce FX5600
500GB HD
LCD Flatron Monitor (which was a big mistake as all the games he plays seem really blurry and have transparent trails)

Your friend is an idiot...

[Psycho_Medic]

The console is a shitty computer crammed into a tiny box without a keybord or a monitor and no speakers. you have to buy a tv, controlers, and you have to buy online gaming crap monthly i think for most of the games. You cant edit anything in a console, you cant get on the net or download games or anything with that pos. also the resolution can only go up to a certin height and if you dont have a computer the only way to look at porn is to buy movies and magizenes lol

*edit*
and all you retards that are like i bought a graphics card for 20k when i could of bought a console for $2 are bein really stupid because if you bought some video card that equaled the graphics of a console and couldnt change the resoultion, download new updated drivers, change color quality, or connect to multiple monitors and crap then it would be like a $20 graphics card.

although i do have like 20 reasons why console is better but i have already chosen sides

[Vamp]

Originally posted by TheCanuk@9 November 2003 - 01:05
the reason pc's will always over run consoles is

#1 aiming on pc's is way way way way way betterx50000 instead of that fuckin retarded aiming with that little fucktaded stick on the middle of it. how the fuck am i suppose 2 aim with that??

Umm...Ok.

I can aim fine with the Xbox controller, just push the sensitivity on games up to your standard, and as I said before, you get used to them... Either that or I don't know what your hands look like... All gnarled up and shit.

Don't try and rip consoles because of their controls, because that is the #1 exscuse people use to bash consoles.

And just by the way, a Keyboard and Mouse is available for PS2 and with a mod-chip and BIOS, there are for Xbox as well

So check out your facts before making bad attempts at making PC's look better then consoles... And by the way, after playing Halo for an hour with the Xbox controller, I could play and aim just as well as with a mouse and keyboard.

[Vamp]

Originally posted by Psycho_Medic@9 November 2003 - 03:41
The console is a shitty computer crammed into a tiny box without a keybord or a monitor and no speakers. you have to buy a tv, controlers, and you have to buy online gaming crap monthly i think for most of the games. You cant edit anything in a console, you cant get on the net or download games or anything with that pos. also the resolution can only go up to a certin height and if you dont have a computer the only way to look at porn is to buy movies and magizenes lol

*edit*
and all you retards that are like i bought a graphics card for 20k when i could of bought a console for $2 are bein really stupid because if you bought some video card that equaled the graphics of a console and couldnt change the resoultion, download new updated drivers, change color quality, or connect to multiple monitors and crap then it would be like a $20 graphics card.

although i do have like 20 reasons why console is better but i have already chosen sides

Ok...Another shitty exscuse is "I could have gotten something... But didn't"

You obviously could not have gotten a console for $2, because if you could, you would have bought that piece of Stolen machinery right away, whether you like consoles or not.

Second of all, I can download upgrades and mods fine with PS2-Online and Xbox-live. Although I prefer getting my mods on magazines.

And w'er talking about games not porn,