Public Employee Unions Must Be Crushed !

[mjmacky]

What does cancer do?

It fools the immune system into thinking it is not a threat to the body, so the immune system doesn't initiate apoptosis in the defective cell, and it continues to live and grow out of control, eventually killing its host.

I hope this doesn't burst your bubble or anything, but you have quite inaccurately described cancer. Type the following to have me elaborate, "up up down down left right left right B A select start"

[mjmacky]

I literally only read that post because I noticed something about Mary.

And what may that be, pray prey tell?

[manker]

I literally only read that post because I noticed something about Mary.

And what may that be, prey pray tell?

The comrade thing, innit.

[mjmacky]

And what may that be, prey pray tell?

The comrade thing, innit.

oic

Can't I just be a general socialist?

[999969999]

<something about using left wing monikers as an insult in much the same way 'gay' is used as an insult by children> snip

The liberal media is the same way. Many of the people in the Obama administration and many people associated with the Obama administration have made outrageous statements, but yet the media ignores them. They certainly wouldn't ignore them if conservatives said the polar opposite of what they are saying.

Hold the front page.
Liberal media tacitly condones liberal statements yet openly condemns conservative viewpoints.


I literally only read that post because I noticed something about Mary but I read a little more and I can't make up my mind whether this is a well thought out political parody or if you're actually the precocious 12 year old son of Geert Wilders.

Who knows what you're talking about?!?

Here's what I'm talking about:

Why anybody would vote for X over Y is beyond me.

Because money controls politics. It's really easy. It won't get fixed until all of you decide to burn the whole fucking system down and rebuild it.

You wouldn't have ANY money in your pocket (US currency being a Federal thing, ya know) and how exactly did the Federal government impinge upon your "freedom" today?

I can't speak for zot, but it would be chaos, and I would feast upon the flesh of the children of people who deny me their possessions!

OK, but serious now. I hate this society and wouldn't mind seeing it suffer to rebuild something devoid of commercial/financial influence, since it'd be like, a noble cause. I'm not personally as upset with the government as I am over the manipulation and control over the government by groups with plenty a dollar to spend. I only last year was able to get affordable health coverage (< $200/mo.) that didn't put a lifetime indemnity rider on anything that has to do with my heart or cardiovascular system (if they didn't outright reject me).

I am now getting notices about letting my cat roam around outside in our condo, the first time in 6 years, because we pissed off someone who knows members of the board by no longer being friendly with him. Since pets outdoors, not on leashes, is a violation of the rules, they can assess fines; if those go unpaid, they can lead to a legal eviction and forced foreclosure on the unit (by way of lien). This is something that really irks me, if I were tone down my reserved opinion. In reality, these board members have a different modus operandi, they have lawyer friends eager to secure their own payout. I've got about a half dozen other stories but will stop there. I have made several plans in the past to murder two of the board members, but have postponed entertaining the thought any further until I've secured my plans to leave the country.

I think I'm getting at a point here, it's shit like this that makes this country fucked.

So, the Federal gubmint is sending you notices about your cat?
If you're going to bitch about Federal intrusion, do you still get to complain about State or local interference?

I was pretty certain I got to a point about lobbying and this style of governing giving license to fuck a fool or twenty at the end.
P.S. I'm not the state > federal guy
I'm the fuck the capitalist government guy.

The cancer is hiding in plain sight.

[mjmacky]

The cancer is hiding in plain sight.

@manker
You know, the cancer, that immunological disorder that's infectious like the AIDS virus.

[j2k4]

[QUOTE=mjmacky;3685160]

The rest will flip burgers, I suppose.

That's okay with me, as long as they do it well.

"Teaching to the test" is a concoction brewed-up by the unfortunate interface of the Union(s) and the government's perpetually meddlesome natures.

To be specific, it was the No Child Left Behind Act (Law) that placed standardized testing as a dogma for school administrations. It was comprehensive in its nature and well intended in its goal, but poorly designed with some of its major facets, especially standardized tests being the evaluation tool.

Agreed, pretty much, as to NCLB; good intentions can often only be bad when implemented in the wrong arena.

Florida's teacher union (FEA) started losing their effectiveness due to legislative measures (Rep. majority) made under Gov. Jeb Bush (1999-2007).

The union's effectiveness?

Effectiveness in what endeavor, precisely?

I don't know how all of this can be of a meddlesome nature, since primary/secondary education is a government institution. I believe you meant to label it as bureaucratic, which it is.

No, I meant what I said, whatever it was.

Education should not be an instrument of the federal government, frankly - it should be handled at the local and state levels.

If the feds want to do anything at all, let them require the states to provide education - that's all.

P.S. The guys who serve your fries, scan and bag your groceries, mow your lawns, construct your buildings, etc., all vote. I'd rather have more educated rather than less educated people making those choices, but there's a debilitating retardation in the learning process, and that's why I have no faith in our current "democracy". You don't have to be intelligent to be political, and therein resides the fuel for successfully financed campaign propaganda.

Oh, absolutely agreed, but we're (I am, at any rate) talking about literally re-manufacturing the educational process, here.

Needs doing, don't you think?

[j2k4]

The comrade thing, innit.

oic

Can't I just be a general socialist?

You want to be General Socialist?

Okay with me.

[clocker]

...we're (I am, at any rate) talking about literally re-manufacturing the educational process, here.

Needs doing, don't you think?

Yes, it does.
How would you do that absent Federal involvement?

What states do you think do a good job now, what states don't?
How involved do religious organizations get to be?
Is there any sort of minimum standard required or does everyone get to be Louisiana and Texas?

[j2k4]

...we're (I am, at any rate) talking about literally re-manufacturing the educational process, here.

Needs doing, don't you think?

Yes, it does.
How would you do that absent Federal involvement?

What states do you think do a good job now, what states don't?
How involved do religious organizations get to be?
Is there any sort of minimum standard required or does everyone get to be Louisiana and Texas?

Very literally allow the states to do as they please.

The results should show soon enough.

Religious organizations should (as they always have been) be free to form their own educational institutions.

The states could establish standards of their own.

A beneficial effect of this idea would be a quick winnowing of stupid ideas about how to get the job done - if no one authority holds sway over the situation, "norming" gets a nice (and badly-needed) makeover.

Commonalities will appear soon enough (the best ideas rise like cream, you see), and the re-orientation toward the needs of the job market will be will take place.