Public Employee Unions Must Be Crushed !

[clocker]

Given that bad (for the taxpayer) contracts, negotiated badly, by bad, stupid, people, people elected by idiots, must be executed in order to avoid unfairness to the beneficiaries of the contracts, and given as well that many of these contracts were basically negotiated to eternally grow in value to the unions and cost to the public, and to do so in perpetuity, how is electing new officials seen as a solution?

We see large corporations, municipalities and even states entertaining bankruptcy, yet the watchword is fairness to the unions?


Unless someone can tell me precisely how I am to blame for, say, GM's situation, I'd like a rationale for this "fairness", and also one explaining why, just because I don't have a "contract" with someone/thing, I am not entitled to that selfsame "fairness"?

And yet these same "bad, stupid people" elected "by idiots" are better qualified than the Feds to decide what sort of education a states children will receive...and that's perfectly OK with you.
Is it fair to point out that the children who grow up thinking that Jesus rode dinosaurs had no say in the contract either?

[j2k4]

I have a very quick question:

Given that bad (for the taxpayer) contracts, negotiated badly, by bad, stupid, people, people elected by idiots, must be executed in order to avoid unfairness to the beneficiaries of the contracts, and given as well that many of these contracts were basically negotiated to eternally grow in value to the unions and cost to the public, and to do so in perpetuity, how is electing new officials seen as a solution?

We see large corporations, municipalities and even states entertaining bankruptcy, yet the watchword is fairness to the unions?

Okay...how far do we take that?

The taxpayers of whatever municipality, for example, are contractually bound to hold up their end...unto bankruptcy.

Yet, in lieu of bankruptcy, the unions are able to access, through government, the pockets of every taxpayer, not just ones who cast the stupid "vote".

So-

Unless someone can tell me precisely how I am to blame for, say, GM's situation, I'd like a rationale for this "fairness", and also one explaining why, just because I don't have a "contract" with someone/thing, I am not entitled to that selfsame "fairness"?

I believe you meant to quote me. I also believe you could use more sentence breaks, it's OK if the question is longer .

I speak on behalf of the rational man, presenting rational solutions. However, I still get to hide behind the cynical view of it all being fucked.

Because let's face it, it's pretty fucked.

Yes, and it's better to get that out front before precious cyber-ink is spilled in vain.

I like run-on sentences - they are useful for sorting the intellectual fly-specks from the pepper.

Good night.

[mjmacky]

Yes, and it's better to get that out front before precious cyber-ink is spilled in vain.

I like run-on sentences - they are useful for sorting the intellectual fly-specks from the pepper.

Good night.

There's barely anyone reading these threads, ahchoo!

[999969999]

The immune response...

Cancer is hazardous because the cell continues to undergo mitotic division without responding to negative feedback or programmed cell death. It continues growing, stealing blood supply and nutrients from neighboring cells just to feed its growing mass of cells. The immune system usually won't attack it since they're still mostly normal cells with a mutated flaw in the genetic code (most mutations are either fixed or cause cell death). It will continue to do so until it is either removed, reduced or it kills its host. So in essence, cancer is like unabated capitalism.

Isn't it quite telling how you completely ignored the rest of my quote:

I hope this doesn't burst your bubble or anything, but you have quite inaccurately described cancer. Type the following to have me elaborate, "up up down down left right left right B A select start"

The immune response

Any substance that raises an alarm in the body, causing the immune system to react to and attack it is called an antigen. This immune response can lead to destruction of both the antigens and anything they are attached to, such as germs or cancer cells.

Germs such as viruses, bacteria, and parasites have substances on their outer surfaces, such as certain proteins, that are not normally found in the human body. The immune system sees these foreign substances as antigens. Cancer cells are also different from normal cells in the body. They often have some unusual substances on their outer surfaces that can act as antigens.

But the immune system is much better at recognizing and attacking germs than it is cancer cells. Germs are very different from normal human cells and are seen as truly foreign. But cancer cells and normal cells can be very much alike, and any differences are less clear cut. Because of this the immune system may not always recognize cancer cells as foreign. Cancer cells are less like soldiers of an invading army and more like traitors within the ranks of the human cell population. This may be why cancers are often able to grow despite the presence of a healthy, working immune system.

http://www.cancer.org/Treatment/Trea.../immunotherapy


I emphasize the word "traitor" here.

He wants to destroy the United States, but he is a U.S. citizen living in the U.S.

I'll make it easier for you, so you won't have to read so much of the quote from the American Cancer Society:

Cancer cells are less like soldiers of an invading army and more like traitors within the ranks of the human cell population

[mjmacky]

Isn't it quite telling how you completely ignored the rest of my quote:

It is telling, it says, "mjmacky knows a lot more about cancer than 9s".

[mjmacky]

... and in turn, can formulate better metaphors based on said subject.

[j2k4]

... and in turn, can formulate better metaphors based on said subject.

An advantage of increasing age.

I suffer from it as well.

[mjmacky]

... and in turn, can formulate better metaphors based on said subject.

An advantage of increasing age.

I suffer from it as well.

Professional experience can't hurt either

[999969999]

I guess I didn't quite make it simple enough for Comrade Macky.

"Cancer cells are less like soldiers of an invading army and more like traitors within the ranks of the human cell population." (this quote came from the American Cancer Society, so, if you are claiming you know more about cancer than they do, you are full of it).

I'm calling you a traitor because just like cancer cells you are turning on our country. You have said over and over again that you want to destroy the U.S. And unfortunately, no one but me seems to care about what you have said, which backs up what I am trying to say about this. If there are enough people like you, their country will be destroyed, but they don't bat an eye. They don't care. They don't recognize people like you as a serious threat to their own country.

Much like the immune system ignoring cancer as it kills the body.

I hope that was simple enough for you to understand.

[mjmacky]

I guess I didn't quite make it simple enough for Comrade Macky.

"Cancer cells are less like soldiers of an invading army and more like traitors within the ranks of the human cell population." (this quote came from the American Cancer Society, so, if you are claiming you know more about cancer than they do, you are full of it).

I'm calling you a traitor because just like cancer cells you are turning on our country. You have said over and over again that you want to destroy the U.S. And unfortunately, no one but me seems to care about what you have said, which backs up what I am trying to say about this. If there are enough people like you, their country will be destroyed, but they don't bat an eye. They don't care. They don't recognize people like you as a serious threat to their own country.

Much like the immune system ignoring cancer as it kills the body.

I hope that was simple enough for you to understand.

You seem to be neglecting that the American Cancer Society has oversimplified their explanation of cancer in that statement in order to describe it to the rest of the population. Next, you'll be telling me about how the internet is a series of tubes. Tell me about the internet.

The immune system attacks based on receptor recognition. Foreign cells can be killed in the body because they tend not to produce the peptide sequences that embed in the cell membrane for NK cells to recognize as inhibitory, so the cell is attacked and killed. If it is a cell that is attacked by an external influence, those inhibitory peptides tend to be modified and the inhibitory receptor doesn't recognize the cell, killing the cell. Cell stress due to infection or or cancer produces a peptide sequence that embeds in the membrane and signals an immune response to kill it, but with cancer the inhibitory peptide sequence is usually intact and cancels the immune response to kill the cell.