BitMate: A BitTorrent Client for Poor Bandwidth People

[megabyteme]

I get warm, fuzzy feelings when I see something that is developed with the core ideals of filesharing (BT) in mind.

Ideally, though, more money would be spent helping those left-behind countries develop higher-speed connections. And perhaps get them some clean water, medicines, and food.

[shipwreck]

Who needs food when you can have a gigabit link at home?

[TONiC]

It aims at conserving bandwidth and choosing peers that are as little hops away as possible, and therefore have lower latencies. Sounds pretty sensible to me.

But how does choosing the nearest peers guarantee efficiency? Especially as we know the connection efficiency is correlated between the total number of connections. Considering the fact that if you live in an area/country who's infrastructure is no good [otherwise you wouldn't really have much reason to use such a client], where if you have a DL speed of 5kB/s then the average upload speed can't be very impressive either [in the UK you can get 50mbit/1mbit, scale it down to 5kB/s download]... so connecting to "local" peers only [from a national perspective] may not even end up maxing out your own shit connection??¬!?1

This was covered by that Dritte link saying:

designed to minimize cross-ISP traffic... BitMate matches peer locality as well as bandwidth.

So essentially, this program saves your [shitty] ISP money, which is likely not to be reinvested in your local infrastructure. If it's basing it on BW now as well, then it's doing what a "normal" BT client does then.


I'm sure many people will find this program useful in providing some comfort knowing that they'll save themselves a few hours/days/weeks, but 10 years sitting in front of a computer has told me that "download accelerators" are either unnoticably useless or just a trojan.

[KFlint]

Was that worth your 5000th post?

I didn't even notice!

Just demote me now, I want those silver (well... grey) stars now

[megabyteme]

Was that worth your 5000th post?

I didn't even notice!

Just demote me now, I want those silver (well... grey) stars now

Yer just like an old lady with a bad dye job- gray underneath, blue on the surface.

[IdolEyes787]

But how does choosing the nearest peers guarantee efficiency? Especially as we know the connection efficiency is correlated between the total number of connections. Considering the fact that if you live in an area/country who's infrastructure is no good [otherwise you wouldn't really have much reason to use such a client], where if you have a DL speed of 5kB/s then the average upload speed can't be very impressive either [in the UK you can get 50mbit/1mbit, scale it down to 5kB/s download]... so connecting to "local" peers only [from a national perspective] may not even end up maxing out your own shit connection??¬!?1

This was covered by that Dritte link saying:

designed to minimize cross-ISP traffic... BitMate matches peer locality as well as bandwidth.

So essentially, this program saves your [shitty] ISP money, which is likely not to be reinvested in your local infrastructure. If it's basing it on BW now as well, then it's doing what a "normal" BT client does then.


I'm sure many people will find this program useful in providing some comfort knowing that they'll save themselves a few hours/days/weeks, but 10 years sitting in front of a computer has told me that "download accelerators" are either unnoticably useless or just a trojan.

Hmmm who to believe Tonic or a " group of researchers from several well respected universities" ? smileyvault-cute-big-smiley-animated-055.gif

[TONiC]

Hmmm who to believe Tonic or a " group of researchers from several well respected universities" ? smileyvault-cute-big-smiley-animated-055.gif

'Knew something like this was coming

So I saved my most daunting point for last:
By connecting to more "local" [nationally] you increase the risk of connecting to MPAA/Copyright firms in your country... 3 strikes? Hell, gimme a 4th. 700Euro fine? I'll take two. Tell me I lie.

[Vorx]

Well i DID only read the first 2 paragraphs. TL;DR

[megabyteme]

So I saved my most daunting point for last:
By connecting to more "local" [nationally] you increase the risk of connecting to MPAA/Copyright firms in your country...

We are talking about countries with minimal infrastructure, unclean water, scarce food resources, with children going blind from lack of basic vitamins- while not necessarily beneath MPAA/RIAA lawyers, these countries are doubtfully on the "high priority pursuit list".

[TONiC]

We are talking about countries with minimal infrastructure, unclean water, scarce food resources, with children going blind from lack of basic vitamins- while not necessarily beneath MPAA/RIAA lawyers, these countries are doubtfully on the "high priority pursuit list".

Agreed 100%, but bear in mind this program can be downloaded and used by anyone, especially by n00bs who tend to be sucked into to "faster downloads!>!!>" style programs. Australia and NZ still have a monopolised infrastructure, offering 512mbyte traffic/month [joy!], though this is soon gunna change.