Anonymous is to DDoS sony...

[shipwreck]

With the exception of a $30 stereo bluetooth headset from Sony Ericsson for which there is no (affordable) alternative of similar quality, I haven't bought a Sony product since the Playstation 1 in 1995. I've been avoiding them like the plague exactly because of that.

[Monaco]

Most of my electronics were made by Sony. I love my unhacked PS3 and don't really care about all of the whining about Sony.

[megabyteme]

Most of my electronics were made by Sony. I love my unhacked PS3 and don't really care about all of the whining about Sony.

Not only are you a poor consumer (Sony is FAR better at marketing than they are at building quality components, with a few exceptions), but you are also dim witted when it comes to consumer rights issues. Thanks for clarifying that for us.

[Monaco]

Most of my electronics were made by Sony. I love my unhacked PS3 and don't really care about all of the whining about Sony.

Not only are you a poor consumer (Sony is FAR better at marketing than they are at building quality components, with a few exceptions), but you are also dim witted when it comes to consumer rights issues. Thanks for clarifying that for us.

Consumer law was easily the most boring elective I took in law school. My professor accused me of similar charges. With the exception of a few instances where the poor are truly preyed upon or people's safety is at risk, I just don't care. Frankly, I didn't research my purchases, I just went to the Sony store at my local mall and bought what I wanted, which is generally how I make purchases.

[TONiC]

Consumer law was easily the most boring elective I took in law school. My professor accused me of similar charges. With the exception of a few instances where the poor are truly preyed upon or people's safety is at risk, I just don't care. Frankly, I didn't research my purchases, I just went to the Sony store at my local mall and bought what I wanted, which is generally how I make purchases.

You sound pretty stereotypical American tbh. Are you?

[Quarterquack]

Most of my electronics were made by Sony. I love my unhacked PS3 and don't really care about all of the whining about Sony.

Bingo.

My portable headphones were made by Sony (MDR-7506). If I ever buy another high end piece of headphone goodness, they would be the Sony MDR-R10.
My laptop is a Sony Vaio Z. If I were to ever upgrade it would be to the newer model or a different VAIO. I'd also buy a Sony TX in a heart beat.
My entertainment has always been Sony, starting with a PS1/2/P/3. They are all hacked and they are lovely, and I basically grew my gaming sweet tooth on a dualshock.

There is no moral foundation for any of these actions, and trying to reason that what was done was "right" is stupid. Hackers opened up the PS3, Sony retaliated. Did no one see it coming, really? This isn't about copyrights, this is just about being right. Sony isn't and shouldn't stand still while their console gets opened wide over sideways and under.

Not only are you a poor consumer (Sony is FAR better at marketing than they are at building quality components, with a few exceptions), but you are also dim witted when it comes to consumer rights issues. Thanks for clarifying that for us.

You obviously have never had a lot of Sony products. My dear father has had his MDR-V6's for 20 years. I recently walked into a Sony store with my headphones, a month before my 5-year warranty was up, and suggested that the drivers were starting to get colored and was instantly given a new pair, even though there was nothing wrong with them, I just thought that I may as well use my warranty in order to last myself an extra 5 years with my purchase.

My PS1 has been in working order since 1997. My PS2 since 2001. How many times have XBox releases fail since? How many other consoles from Nintendo report fatal errors?

All the VAIOs I ever bought (my previous 4 laptops) have been fantastic laptop with minimal (and actually useful at times) bloatware, and have all remained in functioning order years after their intended usage. I replaced them not out of necessity but out of wanting a new laptop and them getting old. Dells and HP's, even ASUS have repeatedly failed on me, and left me without a laptop while they had to be shipped halfway around the world for fixing.

Marketing? Bleh. More like superb customer service, and things that work the same way they were intended, as well as products that outlast themselves and are repeatedly top of the line. It's why I pay the Sony premium.

EDIT:

Also, fuck anyone the succumbs to the hacker propaganda. They're painting a picture of them being the victims. Please. OtherOS was taken out because GeoHot was trying to run pirated games eventually. His speech of wanting to simply run linux is a lie. He says anything that makes him seem respectable/amazing in people's eyes. "I'm fighting for people's public rights", "I just wanted to run linux", etc. The brat is a disgusting concoction of toe-stepping actions and ego-framing stunts. Want to know how real hackers work? They keep their work private. Unlike GeoHot, Mathieulh, Graf_Chokolo etc. I myself, as well as many other people had "pseudo" hacks running or keys extracted from the PS3 long before this major exploit came along (that GeoHot did not find, but just publicized as his own). You are welcome to do whatever you wish to your own console, it's your own. But you're not free to distribute it, that's where he's stepping over the line.

Before I spent most of time studying and fooling around with 10-15 games a week I used to develop hacks for online games. They're fantastic little things and a massive money hoarder. The only issue I ever morally had was the distribution, and I eventually quit because I saw it unfit anymore to allow people to ride on my back or use the hacks I created to destroy other people's enjoyment. My original intent was fun, level-headed action in private rooms, and that's how I used any cheat I developed. Flying around in the air on CS servers shooting 250% damage pistol bullets. Again: The 'real' hackers don't publicize their work, and they don't attempt to make of themselves anything by virtue of their deeds. GeoHot actually had a sign on his site saying "If any of you big three want to hire me, just call," or something along those lines.

If you want to read up on all of this it's freely available through google. I won't look for them, simply because you're equally competent as I am. I'm sure something like "limera1n criticism", "limera1n stolen", or "Team FailOverFlow vs. GeoHot" in google will prove a lot to you about who that trashy kid really is. He's talented but not nearly as talented as he would have people think.

Yes, I am passionate about this because I'm sick of seeing people stick these hackers up on a podium as casualties of a war waged by the people against the evil corporate world. I will stand up for my own rights, in the way I see fit, on my computer, and by my own efforts. Everyone else is free to do as they choose. I don't need some dork somewhere and his two lawyers dictating to me what I should be feeling towards a company.

[megabyteme]

Not only are you a poor consumer (Sony is FAR better at marketing than they are at building quality components, with a few exceptions), but you are also dim witted when it comes to consumer rights issues. Thanks for clarifying that for us.

Consumer law was easily the most boring elective I took in law school. My professor accused me of similar charges. With the exception of a few instances where the poor are truly preyed upon or people's safety is at risk, I just don't care. Frankly, I didn't research my purchases, I just went to the Sony store at my local mall and bought what I wanted, which is generally how I make purchases.

You are intelligent enough to get into law school, but "don't care" about corporations trampling the rights of its consumer base. And you walk into a store without researching your purchases. Why do I get the feeling you did not pay for your own schooling, nor the electronics?

[Quarterquack]

I edited my post, MBM. Hope you read all the modified parts.

[Monaco]

@jojo
I think you got it right there. Basically I've always used either Sony or Apple products. So when I had to equip my own place, I knew that without nitpicking through tech blogs I could go to Sony and not be disappointed by my purchase. Especially re: consoles, my buddy had 5+ 360's die on him and I'd only owned PS consoles, so it was a foregone conclusion I'd buy the PS3.


@ megabyteme:
I paid (or am paying) for everything. Perhaps it is just a personality thing or a result of my upbringing, but I simply do not see any consumer's rights being trampled here. I see a company addressing a problem in protecting their rights. On the other side, I recognize the people fighting for what they believe should be their rights in our evolving digitized world. But that's not what the law says. And I'm not a free market conservative or anything like that, so don't assume too much.

[Tokeman]

I love my PS3. Do I agree with everything sony is doing? No. Is that going to stop me from enjoying games? No! I'm not going to be forced to buy some shoddy hardware from microsoft, which at the time of my purchase, had over a 50% failure rate.
Hell, I dont agree with half of what my government is doing, but does that stop me from living here? No!
Just because you don't fully agree with something is no reason to avoid it all together. Some people think if everyone avoids it, they will change, but guess what? That rarely happens, especially with a giant company like Sony. They could give two shits about what you think or if you buy their stuff or not. Your loss, not theirs.
Have fun on your moral high ground while I play some great games, or listen to music on my great headphones.