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    Quote Originally Posted by shipwreck View Post
    The Sony MELTDOWN.

    Oh yes, they deserve everything they get and then some. Bleed fuckers, bleed!


    I still have not had time (attention span) necessary to debate this with you, Rings. I have only made a few scattered posts recently regarding this in the News section. Others have made most of my points already. In short, consumers buy products based on their interests. Hackers break security features on these for interest, notoriety, politics, spite, and (occasionally) money.

    My earlier comments regarding Sony products are true. The vast majority of them sold are mid-fi, made-for-the-masses consumables. Crack open a Lexicon surround sound processor, or a Bryston amp, or B&W speakers and you will immediately see the difference in design, function, craftsmanship- all elegant. All ahead of their time. All (except the SS processor) holding a good portion of their value. These things are meant to be repaired (if EVER necessary) rather than disposed of after a few years.

    Sony does develop their BRAND- a marketing tool, as I said, by creating rarely-purchased, "signature" products in order to maintain an image that all of their products are of high quality. The PS3, in itself, is not junk. Unfortunately, the company is willing to completely disable it, and destroy paid-for features, along with creating root kits, and putting itself above the consumers' rights to enjoy their purchases as they see fit.

    Sony is dangerous because they have the resources to make industry-standard laws that fuck the consumer. They place themselves, deservingly so, in the cross-hairs of consumer-rights champions (regardless of their personal gains- which could be varied, as I mentioned at the beginning f this post). Since this is a war, of sorts, over electronic freedoms, and the rights of the consumers, I chose those who offer me MORE choices (whether, or not I decide to take advantage of these is then up to me), than the ever-restricted ones offered by HUGE, anti-consumer corporations.

    Who wants to fight with DRM on items they pay for? Who wants limited functionality on these items that, again, have been paid for? Certainly not me.
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    I buy music off Zune now because it's quick, easy, and DRM-free. I can't say the same about their videos. They are restricted (DRM), a little overpriced, and slow to download (clocking at 600 kB/s or 4.8 Mbps) compared to pirated versions (which I can grab at nearly 40 Mbps). Now I know how to remove DRM from Zune videos, but I hate going through all that effort just for myself. The point I'm making is if you treat the consumer right, even lowly pirates like myself will reward you with cash and praises. Tell me how Sony has been rewarding there customers, especially in the context of deterring piracy and their current methods. Even if there was a DRM free Sony marketplace, I wouldn't be spending a dime there. MS has not been pissing me off lately, so I feel comfortable spending money with them. Sony loses more than they gain, and everything that's been going on seems well deserved. I sort of kind of feel bad for the customers, but then again, they made that decision...

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    I've been following the story closely, and IMO, they do deserve it. Sony are one of the world's biggest corporations... they knew full-well that it is legal for people to modify their systems, and they knew full-well that forcing an update to remove Other OS breaks their side of the consumer agreement. They just figure that they could pay off a politician, hire better lawyers, and ultimately keep the free-market in a more powerful position than the opinion of the people. That's what they didn't account for; if you assume youre system is 100% fool-proof, then you aren't going to make much attempt in improving it - but ofcourse the opinion of the people rules; those hackers deserve massive kudos - DDoS was going to get the cause no-where if the facts in that IRC log are correct [anti ddos software upto 150gbit/s], and instead chose to hack into PSN servers, and by holding PSN clientel details ransom, they have Sony by the balls within every continent. If it is shown Sony did not put in place adequate protection against users details they face more costs in damages imposed by the government than any DDoS disrupting their service. And if it doesn't, the shit storm continues.

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    I don't know much about Sony's proper or improper behavior, so I'll just repeat what I said before: I enjoy the things that I bought from them... I bought some stuff from the PSN, and even though those hackers may have obtained my personal info, they didn't hack into my banking account because so far, I didn't notice any unauthorized charges coming from my banking account.

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    How about you leave these grow'd up discussions for the grow'd ups, Oleg?
    Quote Originally Posted by IdolEyes787 View Post
    Ghey lumberjacks, wolverines, blackflies in the summer, polar bears in the winter, that's basically Canada in a nutshell.

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    I guess I should follow your advice; I don't know much about Sony's ethics.

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    , but only because PSN doesn't have had my credit card numbers.
    Quote Originally Posted by IdolEyes787 View Post
    Ghey lumberjacks, wolverines, blackflies in the summer, polar bears in the winter, that's basically Canada in a nutshell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by megabyteme View Post
    , but only because PSN doesn't have had my credit card numbers.
    Doesn't had?
    "I just remembered something that happened a long time ago."

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    Quote Originally Posted by anon-sbi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by megabyteme View Post
    , but only because PSN doesn't have had my credit card numbers.
    Doesn't had?
    Yeah, I know. Weak Engrish, but I wasn't going to give them credit for having something that they lost. So, yeah, they "had" them.
    Quote Originally Posted by IdolEyes787 View Post
    Ghey lumberjacks, wolverines, blackflies in the summer, polar bears in the winter, that's basically Canada in a nutshell.

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