my anaylsis on usenet vs torrenting

[kukushka]

one can do without it

oss117 in rio

german edition bluray is there (fr\ger audio)

starter for 10

Its also there, English edition

if your wishes have a bit more variety than usual scene shit, newsgroups can be useless

there are loads of nonscene stuff there. Both classic in various edition and general.

What i was trying to say you wont find so many movies at one place, blurays as well, anywhere esle.
And available at full download speedfor almost 3 years
Lots of releases on your russian hdtracker use stuff from usenet .

And please, gief us ~15 titles(and format) that you couldnt find on usenet except those ones mentioned

Im curious.

where those starter for 10 & oss 117 can be found?
as for 15 titles (why not 10 or 20? ) - atm the only title that i'm after is japanese uncut bd of transporter. i'm aware that there is a remux at newsgroups but it wasn't "clearly" named and it's passworded so it requires some "advanced" skills to find it and download.. as for older stuff - for dvd: sabotage 1996, dollar for the dead, that thing you do (extended), beowulf 1999 r1, attention bandits! 1986, most wanted 1997 - for those dvd's i had to make (successful) dvd requests; for full bd's - after my req's got filled most of the stuff got forwarded to hdbits and further so if they were upped less than a year ago, they were probably issued from bt too: Dude, Where's My Car? , Dan in Real Life (US) , Major League , So I Married an Axe Murderer , Les rivières pourpres II - Les anges de l'apocalypse aka Crimson Rivers 2: Angels of the Apocalypse, Billy Madison
MR 73 with 25 mbit vc1 - i had to leech it from ddl.

hdtracker - it's hard to remember when was the last time when i could find there something useful for me except for some variants of russian audio tracks.
but speaking of russian oriented trackers, i wonder if hdclub took Sherlock Jr. & Three Ages (1924/1923) Blu-ray 1080p/i AVC DTS-HD 5.1
released 4 days ago from newsgroups

..as for "one place" - do you use one forum/site to search for things? and here's the name of "one" place for bt - rutracker

[stoi]

You cant really compare them though, they are 2 totally different protocols.

Usenet:
1 uploader, uploads to their servers, 1000`s download from their servers
no idea how many members they have but lets say $11 per month, 500,000 customers = $5.5mil per month = server farms galore

Torrents:

Lots of members sharing, on their own bandwith, some seedbox, but for the most part, home connections, seeding lots of torrents = primarily slow downloads (especially on older stuff)
No where near 500,000 donors, not even on the biggest tracker, probably and this is just a guess, biggest tracker/s getting about $10,000 a month max, and more than likely less than $1000 per month = no server farms.

Usenet vs FTP vs Web DL

Torrents Vs Emule Vs limewire (if its still going) would be a better comparisin.

[duarte]

Before I started using Usenet I had 1.5Tb worth of storage and thought it was enough.

Then I got Usenet and now I got 11Tb worth of storage.

True Story. Usenet makes 20Gb for 1 film seem perfectly rational.

[mjmacky]

makes 20Gb for 1 film seem perfectly rational.

Regardless of download method/speed and storage capacity, I don't think 20 GB is rational. An encode of some typical 20 GB BD source at just over 50 % bitrate is very, VERY, transparent at same resolution in most cases, and that's using the same codec (albeit different implementation). I feel that the sizes are inflated because of the hardware development + codec implementation limitations (both in encoding and compatibility concerns).

[duarte]

guess I'm not rational then.. or ahead of the curve, 1Tb to me is not alot of space...and 20gb for my favourite film at its highest quality...worth it!

I could re-encode my collection to make smaller - but really CBA

[shipwreck]

20GB? Self-made remuxes of some of my favourite movies are up to 40GB in size. Some Blu-rays have very little extras, most of the BD50 space is used for the main movie.

[Hypatia]

'm aware that there is a remux at newsgroups but it wasn't "clearly" named and it's passworded so it requires some "advanced" skills to find it and download

its passworded because its internal release from abhdtv

so if they were upped less than a year ago, they were probably issued from bt too

suuuuuure thing
found these
2)Dude, Where's My Car?
2)Dan in Real Life (
3)So I Married an Axe Murderer
4)Les rivières pourpres II ger edition
5)Billy Madison
6)MR 73 ger edition

anyways, i guess everyone will stick to ones own opinion

[kukushka]

its passworded because its internal release from abhdtv

so if they were upped less than a year ago, they were probably issued from bt too

suuuuuure thing
found these
2)Dude, Where's My Car?
2)Dan in Real Life (
3)So I Married an Axe Murderer
4)Les rivières pourpres II ger edition
5)Billy Madison
6)MR 73 ger edition

anyways, i guess everyone will stick to ones own opinion

sure thing? why's this irony? i have exact dates when it was released in bt, was a bit too lazy to compare.. purple rivers / mr 73 / bm probably got released earlier, i saw them being dead in hdbits logs and i always had impression that hdbits have a decent synching with newsgroups
so. none of forementioned dvd's could be found? cool. and i asked before about abhdtv, and the only release i'm kinda interested atm is (wow, surprise!) - it's from there.
you also ignored my question about sites where you was able to find stuff like starter for 10, thank you very much
u know, i'm not discussing the topic just to hold to my opionion, i'm just a bit curious about how ppl are doing with newsgroups. they say - it's easy, it's easy!! but when it comes to some particular details, it seems like there are some missing links in the chain..

[stoi]

Everything is easy once you have done it a few times, and everyone was/is a noob in something or other until they do it a few times.

BT and Usenet are very easy to grasp.

get client, input your usenet provider/username/password. either download full groups or use a site for nzbs (like here) dl NZB. tell client where to put the files, download files, bingo done, if you client doesnt have a par mechanism, then download quickpar start the par2 file in quickpar, it should fix it, unrar it, watch/play/burn/listen to it.

The only thing that i have found to be a PITA with usenet is some music, they are not multirared, and some dont come with pars, so only way to know they are broken or not is to listen to them, at least with BT you know they wont be broken unless the uploader screwed up. there are also a hell of a lot of viruses on usenet, but if you know what you are doing (6 gig PC game listed as a 500KB file) then you will be safe. passworded rars are a PITA as well, but luckily i havnt got to many of those, and when i do i just delete the things anyway.

[kukushka]

Everything is easy once you have done it a few times, and everyone was/is a noob in something or other until they do it a few times.

i know all this stuff, i dlded some porn from news well before all this bt bullshit started, the missing link for me are those nzb sites. they're either look like btjunkie or (in case of abhdtv) as i said - is pay before you'll find out that it's useless hdbits clone....