Osama bin Laden dead, nearly 10 years after 9/11 terrorist attacks

[Seed007]

r.i.p

[megabyteme]

First off, I apologize to any war-mongering, propaganda biting, true believers I may have offended. The government thanks you for your blind faith, and perseverance regardless of any facts that may have surfaced that derail the entire stated intent of the war.

Second, I never said we should not pursue justice, but a quick glance at the hi-jacker guest list will reveal that none of the terrorists were connected to Afghanistan.

Yes, pursue your enemies to the ends of the earth, kill thousands surrounding the countryside, however- PLEASE AT LEAST GET THE COUNTRY CORRECT WHEN FOLLOWING YOUR BLOOD LUST.

[sandman_1]

Minutes after Obama finished his speech, the cameras showed a group of people out in front of the White House waving flags. Where does one get a full sized American flag on a six foot steel pole at midnight in the nations Capital. Most of the flags I saw were full or near full sized which seemed awful fishy too me, as if the White House ordered all its employees working that night to grab a flag and go outside and wave it.
Then this morning its revealed that they know its Osama from DNA. What? You can't do a DNA test in a few hours! Finally they say he was buried at sea, gee how convenient. This whole thing stinks of some dastardly plan by the powers to be. Then I realized what probably really happened. It came to me after they said no Americans were hurt and that one helicopter was shot down. If a helicopter were really shot down there would likely be injured Americans and what better way to explain one less helicopter came back to the ship, than to say it was shot down. It's more likely the lost helicopter had the real Osama on it, alive and ready for information extraction. He was probably taken somewhere secret. Wouldn't you think he could supply some good intel if pressured properly? I had to laugh when someone at the White House or Military said they buried him at sea to prevent any conspiracy theories. What? For gods sakes that's the way you start a conspiracy not prevent it.
I haven't trusted this corrupt Government for some time now. I don't think this story is going to hold water, and it's certainly not going to bring back my trust. So you say you got Osama, well how about doing something about the oil prices or cable TV mini monopolies and phone fee corruption now HUH? Fix that which robs our pocket books and we can pay more taxes.

My feelings exactly. I was saying, "Where is the visual proof?" when Obama said that we had killed him. When we killed Saddam's 2 sons Uday and Qusay, you saw visual proof almost immediately from the initial news reporting of it. Then I hear today that they buried the body at sea, wtf. They were saying all over the news that the Arab countries are not going to believe it unless they see visual proof and they conviently toss the body overboard at sea!! As it stands now, I can't say I believe the report as is. I also had a similar hypothesis to what you presented. To me it makes perfect sense.

[bobbintb]

Minutes after Obama finished his speech, the cameras showed a group of people out in front of the White House waving flags. Where does one get a full sized American flag on a six foot steel pole at midnight in the nations Capital. Most of the flags I saw were full or near full sized which seemed awful fishy too me, as if the White House ordered all its employees working that night to grab a flag and go outside and wave it.
Then this morning its revealed that they know its Osama from DNA. What? You can't do a DNA test in a few hours! Finally they say he was buried at sea, gee how convenient. This whole thing stinks of some dastardly plan by the powers to be. Then I realized what probably really happened. It came to me after they said no Americans were hurt and that one helicopter was shot down. If a helicopter were really shot down there would likely be injured Americans and what better way to explain one less helicopter came back to the ship, than to say it was shot down. It's more likely the lost helicopter had the real Osama on it, alive and ready for information extraction. He was probably taken somewhere secret. Wouldn't you think he could supply some good intel if pressured properly? I had to laugh when someone at the White House or Military said they buried him at sea to prevent any conspiracy theories. What? For gods sakes that's the way you start a conspiracy not prevent it.
I haven't trusted this corrupt Government for some time now. I don't think this story is going to hold water, and it's certainly not going to bring back my trust. So you say you got Osama, well how about doing something about the oil prices or cable TV mini monopolies and phone fee corruption now HUH? Fix that which robs our pocket books and we can pay more taxes.

case in point for my previous comment.
i mean, really? one of your arguments is that the celebration must have been staged because you cant but a flag that late... IN THE CAPITAL ON ONE THE BIGGEST PATRIOTIC CELEBRATIONS IN DECADES?!

[mjmacky]

His death doesn't mean anything, he's already made his long lasting impact on multiple states' domestic and international policies. Not only that, he has already made it easier for citizens of multiple states to allow themselves to be subjugated (more than before) by their policymakers. Let's pretend all of the idiots out there that still suffer from irrational fear of terrorist attacks have now relaxed, the policies will remain intact. The response to attacks he's orchestrated have done far more damage than he ever did directly, but that's the point. Whether or not he has accomplished his original goals with this, I don't know... but I'm more disappointed in the society that reacted in a manner detriment to actual liberty. I would feel a little more joy to find all those American idiots being reported dead (anti-arabites, nationalist fools, sheep in general).

[eyekey]

lots of terrorist sympathizers on this board.

[kafkastiles]

I just have to chime in.

For all of you who think that Barack Obama had anything to do with this, you are fucking delirious!!!

It was our soldiers and CIA that got him, NOT OBAMA !!!

There were some advisors who wanted an airstrike, which even if successful, would not have yeilded DNA evidence, nor the abundance of intel that the Seals brought home which is being scrutinized by Intelligence as we speak, not to mention it could have easily failed.

There were other advisors who thought Pakistani intel should be alerted, which most likely would have led to a backstabbing tip-off - it had happened in the past.

Obama, AS Commander in Chief, chose this option, risking humiliation of a failed ground assault like under Carter with the hostages in Iran. Obama TOOK that ALL political risks and ORDERED the operation.

So, who exactly is delusional?

BTW - George Bush, after losing Bin Laden in Tora Bora, stated that he didn't really care about Bin Laden (nice for the victims)... that he wasn't a priority. This is while he was making up the WMD bullshit snowjob on all Americans so he could take his eye off the ball with Bin Laden and start a totally senseless new war in Iraq.

BTW x2 - 9/11 happened on Bush's watch, while Condie, Rummie, and all the other dumbasses decided to ignore the memo which clearly stated that an attack was imminent.

So, let me be so bold as to say that Obama had EVERYTHING to do with this mission, and I will go further to rate both presidents (post 9/11) based on their RESULTS.

BUSH - F OBAMA - A+

[megabyteme]

His death doesn't mean anything, he's already made his long lasting impact on multiple states' domestic and international policies. Not only that, he has already made it easier for citizens of multiple states to allow themselves to be subjugated (more than before) by their policymakers. Let's pretend all of the idiots out there that still suffer from irrational fear of terrorist attacks have now relaxed, the policies will remain intact. The response to attacks he's orchestrated have done far more damage than he ever did directly, but that's the point. Whether or not he has accomplished his original goals with this, I don't know... but I'm more disappointed in the society that reacted in a manner detriment to actual liberty. I would feel a little more joy to find all those American idiots being reported dead (anti-arabites, nationalist fools, sheep in general).

I'm with you, macky, up to the parts I crossed out. I still respect our soldiers (the vast majority, anyway) who are doing what they agreed to do, and no longer have a choice. My wife has young, poor, family members who have joined (most likely due to uncertain times, and their ages), and have either been to the Hell-holes, or are being sent to them- this has been difficult on much of her family.

Yes, beyond the senseless loss of lives, we have had rights stamped out (for our own good ), and have lived in a climate of fear- one created by our own government(s) for the past decade.

I fail to see how, by not celebrating the death of yet another human (can I see some video footage of his trial, please?), I am somehow a "terrorist supporter". Justice (you know, that Constitution thing you most likely talk about at least 4 times a day) involves a fair trial. It does not include executions, nor trial by television, nor Presidential decree.

[IdolEyes787]

lots of terrorist sympathizers on this board.

If that's all you take from questioning the situation then the board apparently contains at least one idiot as well .

As for the conspiracy theories I believe Appzalien made some very good points and even if the (supposed) biggest brain-trust in the world failed to see the possible ramifications in not providing definitive proof ( highly-classified hyperspectral imager and the words of a conveniently mortally wounded female human shield .Like no one had a iPhone on him ) then are they honestly silly enough to believe that treating the body respectfully after you have put a couple of bullets in it is going to make a whit of difference to any of the fanatical,retribution seeking Muslims out there?

Not being either fanatical or Muslim I can't say with certainty but the lead in the head seems to be a trifling more off-putting than whether or not some Christian clergyman was ordered into insincerely speaking a few words over the body before they feed it to the guppies.
As for the large American flags popping up immediately thereafter , the true shocker for me would be to find anything in politics that isn't staged these days.

[x00]

An eye for an eye. How it should be.