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    Quote Originally Posted by zot View Post
    If you don't want to (or don't know how to) set up a fill-server using Blocknews.net or Usenet-News.net to pick up Astraweb's missing parts, then these would be my choices in a (similar-monthly-priced/similar retention) Astraweb alternative:
    [*]Supernews.com:[/*] outstanding completion, but a lot of copyright takedowns.
    [*]UsenetNow.net or Ngroups.net:[/*] good completion, fewer copyright takedowns

    You can also use a trial Binload account (400 day retention) as an Astraweb backup.
    i dont know how to set up a fill-server i use newsleecher, is it easy?

    usenetnow is only $12 a month so i might just go with that.

    cheers matey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mysticbertie View Post
    i dont know how to set up a fill-server i use newsleecher, is it easy?

    usenetnow is only $12 a month so i might just go with that.

    cheers matey.
    Yes, Newsleecher supports fill servers. In the window where you put in the server information, check off "use this server for fills only" or set a server priority list, something like that. I still have block accounts I bought over 5 years ago -- the download gigs never expire until used.

    Ngroups costs less than UsenetNow, uses the exact same backend servers. But I think UsenetNow also has a $10/month special floating around somewhere.


    Quote Originally Posted by Beck38 View Post
    posting to one group is sufficient, it helps not one wit to do multiples (in fact it may be detrimental). Just my 2 cents.
    I've always posted music in multiple groups: the specific genre groups as well as a more 'blanket' group like alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.complete-cd. This is because I believe that a lot of people might browse specific groups looking to sample music from new artists they've perhaps never even heard of before. And obviously the more (relevant) groups something is posted in, the more likely people are to find it via browsing headers/filenames. (just my own 2¢)

    Quote Originally Posted by Beck38 View Post
    'Back in the Day' (10+ years ago) that percentage was at least 20%
    I remember that a dozen years ago, completion ranged from bad to horrible - even just the next day after something was posted. Having 15% or 20% pars made sense then. But today, going from 5% pars to 15% pars would mean losing over 100 days of retention. Personally, I'd rather have those extra 100 retention days, since incompletes can be completely avoided simply by piggy-backing block accounts. But since the vast majority of Usenet users appear not to know this "secret" of using fill-servers - then having a higher par percentage would no doubt save a lot of people from undue anguish and misery.

    My biggest complaint is with the people who post things -- most notably MP3s and full albums -- without ANY pars, and this example of ignorance is sadly all too common.
    Last edited by zot; 07-10-2011 at 09:47 PM.

  3. Newsgroups   -   #53
    Quote Originally Posted by zot View Post
    Yes, Newsleecher supports fill servers. In the window where you put in the server information, check off "use this server for fills only" or set a server priority list, something like that. I still have block accounts I bought over 5 years ago -- the download gigs never expire until used.

    Ngroups costs less than UsenetNow, uses the exact same backend servers. But I think UsenetNow also has a $10/month special floating around somewhere.
    well it sounds easy enough setting up the fill server, either way i need to sign up for something new so it may as well be a new news server, ill see if i can find the usenetnow 10$ special if not ngroups $11 deal.

    thanks for your help

    i found the deal for $10.39 so signed up for that.
    Last edited by mysticbertie; 07-10-2011 at 09:54 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Quote Originally Posted by zot View Post
    I've always posted music in multiple groups: the specific genre groups as well as a more 'blanket' group like alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.complete-cd. This is because I believe that a lot of people might browse specific groups looking to sample music from new artists they've perhaps never even heard of before. And obviously the more (relevant) groups something is posted in, the more likely people are to find it via browsing headers/filenames. (just my own 2¢)
    Uh, when this latest problem surfaced, there was a flurry of 'headers.. who cares about headers' type messages, so who exactly is following any specific group at all any more? People use whatever search engine is in front of them, either on a site like this, nzbmatrix, newzbin, or one of the myriad of usenet search engines. Of course, yes, that means that folks won't 'trip' over something, but then again, I would think with music it's just like films, folks rely upon their favorite site or something to give them a heads up, then go out to the search engines to see if it's 'available'.

    As to pars, I like to think with the cost of the server plants 'keeping up' with what's being posted, and the 'zero day' being July/August 2008, that in the next couple of years, usenet will get ever closer to what P2P is as far as having just about anything one could want. I hope that the 'work' I do will never go away, period. And posting a far number of pars will help that process no matter what kind of heavy crashes occur (hopefully).
    Last edited by Beck38; 07-11-2011 at 03:42 AM.

  5. Newsgroups   -   #55
    Only one download so far today has been corrupted on me. I have been with Astraweb through months now (7+ months) I cannot complain for the price I am more than happy.

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    When this 'day 100' problem first surfaced, I immediately went to posting I had done (and verified on several servers including Astra at the time I posted) and d/l 3-4 of them w/o major problems - yes, there were a fair number of 'skiips' and such, but as all of those rar archives were 10% par'ed, they only needed a slice of those to fully repair. Where folks got into trouble was with files that were around 2-3% or so: not enough pars to repair.
    Last edited by Beck38; 07-11-2011 at 06:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mysticbertie View Post

    i found the deal for $10.39 so signed up for that.
    This is the link I found. http://usenetnow.net/ngr.html. I think they also have a 6 month special but I could not find it quickly. Been using the service for a long time and never had any problems. Blocknews is another o
    Way to go if you wanna keep astraweb just put it in your reader as backup.

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    Well, as the date/time stamp on this message, no change I can see in Astraweb performance regarding skipping around 100 days.

    Don't think anything has been done yet.

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    Another day goes by, no change either in the 'target zone' on what is now ~150 days, or anything from about 100-300 as well.

    I think if they get past another weekend (and they haven't posted any 'updates' on the situation on their website), things are going to get more than a bit bad with their 'customers'.

  10. Newsgroups   -   #60
    We have been recovering data by group. The most popular groups are being recovered first, then a full sweep of less popular groups will be recovered.
    If you want, pm me the nzb or group and I can see what the status of your group is at.
    oh well.. i wonder how long will it take to cover at least 50% of lost data

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