Is this the beginning of the end?

[b1scu1t]

I just read this.

http://torrentfreak.com/major-usenet...ontent-110929/

Does this portend the end of usenet service providers? I know this case is in Netherlands, but am just wondering.

b1scu1t

[mjmacky]

I'm not familiar with them, but they seem to be the news provider backing "usenext" which I always saw ads plastered all over unfound public torrent search results. Maybe they were just the most visible?

[Beck38]

Well, perhaps/probably for that provider, that I've never heard of, and who apparently has some very (VERY) poor lawyers.

But then again, I don't know spit about Dutch law, apparently they don't have constitutional protections surrounding free speech, and don't (as a result) have the kind of 'safe harbor' provisions that other countries have (and if one goes by the news item, apparently any newspaper, website, radio/TV station, et. al., can be ordered to shut down in that country without the complainant having to produce much of any actual proof).

Then again, their judges might be as corrupt there as in those 'other countries' of which I speak.

[Hypatia]

i dont care about this shady beginning because i know about the end if they keep doing what theyve been doing all this time - the offices of the international copyright mafia ring will be blown to pieces, their gang members will be executed publicly, their assets will be arrested and distributed between artists they used to "represent", corrupt judges will be hanged on trees
They think they are invincible ,well, money wont save them.


When laws become a puppet in the hands of criminals then Lynch law comes into play. The law of the outraged honest men and women who will protect rights and freedom from the dirty tightening claws of copyright crooks


They never learn..

[Hecks]

The safe harbour provisions and notice & takedown systems of the DMCA have nothing at all to do with First Amendment rights in American law (google "chilling effects DMCA first amendment").

And yes, of course this is the beginning of the end. What do you think all those USPs who have major DCs in the Netherlands are thinking now about carrying binary groups (Astraweb, Giganews, Highwinds etc etc)? It's only a matter of time.

[Hypatia]

It's only a matter of time.

a matter of time before corpses start piling up in the streets, yes :-E

corrupt judges, the international copyright mafia ring they all have violated laws too many times thus redefining themselves into pure criminals. They have stepped outside the law.
They wanna play Don Carleone? Fine by me.

What simple folks do against perpetrators when laws are twisted to such an extent that they are of no use in terms of protection of all these honest men and women?

That's right )
Mark my words- they are playing with fire.

[sandman_1]

Nah it isn't the end.

Governor Tarkin: Princess Leia, before your execution, I'd like you to join me for a ceremony that will make this battle station operational. No star system will dare oppose the Emperor now.

Princess Leia: The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.

[Sporkk]

I think that eventually they will find a way to stop easy access to copyrighted content. Unless file sharing is made legal they won't give up. I just hope they don't find a way to shut down all decryption software like anydvd as well. I hope streaming services continue to improve so we have other options.

As long as they can control the distribution of their content without removing rights from consumers or censoring the internet I don't see anything wrong with that. However as others have pointed out they are often criminals as well and abuse the law.

[Beck38]

The safe harbour provisions and notice & takedown systems of the DMCA have nothing at all to do with First Amendment rights in American law (google "chilling effects DMCA first amendment").

You need to go back and redo freshman telecommunications law. Perhaps a community college near you offers such.

[mjmacky]

Basically it'll come to an end when the production side decides to compete with filesharing. It's supposed to be easier to do things the legal way rather than the illegal way, but they insist on restricting people. The way content distribution is setup for legal methods is still a bit of a joke (poor speeds, poor quality, DRM hassle and incompatibility, fleeting licensing, etc.). If they decide to make it easier and affordable to obtain digital copies, that'll start to mark the end of illegal filesharing's footprint.