Usenet safety

[zootman]

I've trawled the interwebs for an answer to this but there never seems to be a 'yes or no' answer....here's hoping you can help,

So i've been torrenting for a good few years now and think it's time to turn to Usenet (lol this is partly owing to the sense of trepidation I get whenever TorrentFreak is loading - it's all bad news!).

Anyway, I wanted to know the difference between an uploaders safety and downloaders safety (I'll be downloading FAR more than I upload - if I upload anything at all, that is).

It always seems that whenever I get close to an answer from viewing forum posts, someone always comes in at the last minute contradicting what's been previously said. I could really do with a bit of clarity on this one.

Thanks in advance, zootman

[sandman_1]

I've trawled the interwebs for an answer to this but there never seems to be a 'yes or no' answer....here's hoping you can help,

So i've been torrenting for a good few years now and think it's time to turn to Usenet (lol this is partly owing to the sense of trepidation I get whenever TorrentFreak is loading - it's all bad news!).

Anyway, I wanted to know the difference between an uploaders safety and downloaders safety (I'll be downloading FAR more than I upload - if I upload anything at all, that is).

It always seems that whenever I get close to an answer from viewing forum posts, someone always comes in at the last minute contradicting what's been previously said. I could really do with a bit of clarity on this one.

Thanks in advance, zootman

Torrents you download/upload at the same time. The uploading of content is where they get ya. When you are just downloading, you probably won't get burnt and if they did they could only get ya for that one count so it is not worth it from their point of view. Adding to that the fact that it would be near impossible to find out what you are doing without someone snooping/spying on your connection to begin with if you just download. Yea your ISP can know but they aren't going to spend the time, money, and resources watching every subscriber on their network. And even if they did, you could always hide what you are downloading with SSL, which nearly every Usenet provider offers.

Most Usenet providers don't keep records of downloads. They do for uploads though for spam purposes but there are ways to upload anonymously.

[cola]

You can download to your hearts content worry free, no records will be kept of that. The amount of space for the logs would be too much.

From what I see other people posting around here saying is that sometimes usenet accounts will get closed for getting too many DMCA complaints on their uploads, so the provider will disable posting or close the account (depending on the provider). I use an NL usenet provider for my posting, they don't seem to care about dmca complaints.

[JustDOSE]

I'll make this as easy to understand as possible. I know coming from p2p your brain is kinda mushy right now.

Usenet has SSL, p2p (aka noob-land) doesn't

Nuff said

[cola]

I'll make this as easy to understand as possible. I know coming from p2p your brain is kinda mushy right now.

Usenet has SSL, p2p (aka noob-land) doesn't

Nuff said

[zot]

So i've been torrenting for a good few years now and think it's time to turn to Usenet
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Anyway, I wanted to know the difference between an uploaders safety and downloaders safety (I'll be downloading FAR more than I upload - if I upload anything at all, that is).

I assume that the question is specifically about about uploading (posting) files on Usenet (not about Bittorrent seeding) .....

All usenet providers can trace posts back to the poster (potentially forever) using their message ID logs, so posting is definitely not anonymous. But for whatever reasons, usenet posters have not *YET* been targeted by the copyright cops. That situation could easily change.

Usenet has SSL, p2p doesn't

There are many P2Ps that use SSL or other encryption protocol, which anyway only prevents packet sniffing by 3rd parties but does not make a user anonymous in the least. To provide true anonymity requires hiding a person's actual IP address, a function completely unrelated to SSL encryption.

[jgjd2001]

I'll make this as easy to understand as possible. I know coming from p2p your brain is kinda mushy right now.

Usenet has SSL, p2p (aka noob-land) doesn't

Nuff said

now thats what im talking about
heck usenet also got VPN (depending on your usenet provider)

[JustDOSE]

now thats what im talking about
heck usenet also got VPN (depending on your usenet provider)

yar, and most of the time the files are named xdv29r3e3r.r01
unlike p2p where all the files are obviously named 'IF_YOUR_LOOKING_ITS_SO_OBVIOUS_IM_STEALING_SOMETHING.DVDrip.AXXO.XVID.2013.avi'

There are many P2Ps that use SSL or other encryption protocol, which anyway only prevents packet sniffing by 3rd parties but does not make a user anonymous in the least. To provide true anonymity requires hiding a person's actual IP address, a function completely unrelated to SSL encryption.

im sure you can find all your releases on that private network with full download speeds, NOT;

and usenet users normally dont need more then SSL
because we arent calling attention to ourselves by uploading massive amounts of data

[Hypatia]

heck usenet also got VPN (depending on your usenet provider)

he would be a fool to use VPN service from these usenet providers like giganews. especially for p2p downloading\uploading
we already discussed that and learned how they serve and protect copyright international mafia ring
If you want VPn then choose among those preferably based in Sweden that dont do that kind of shite

[sandman_1]

Moral of story: wanna get caught eventually, use P2P. Wanna download to your hearts content in safety, use Usenet. I wouldn't even use DDL because the baddies could bait you into downloading something and log your IP address.