Why The Hell Don't You People Know How To Spell?

[J'Pol]

Originally posted by 3RA1N1AC+15 November 2003 - 00:16--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3RA1N1AC &#064; 15 November 2003 - 00:16)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-J&#39;Pol@14 November 2003 - 13:43
Oh and placing "and" immediately after a comma is considered particularly poor form. Even in these slack days.

by whose standards? grammar fascists like strunk & white? it may not be elegant, and it may not be economical, but it&#39;s hardly incorrect.

it&#39;s one thing to point out that people are misspelling common words & using grammar that destroys the intentions of their words, but some people on the other hand are much too slavishly respectful of what their elementary school teachers declared to be the absolute truth. "never begin a sentence with &#39;but.&#39; never put a comma immediately before &#39;and.&#39; an essay always consists of five to seven paragraphs consisting of a one-paragraph introduction, a one-paragraph conclusion, and a lot of blah blah blah in the middle. if it isn&#39;t in webster&#39;s dictionary, then it isn&#39;t a word." sure, drilling such rules into students&#39; brains will cut them off from going near certain mistakes, but it also cuts them off from a lot of things that are perfectly acceptable as well.

when trying to make a point like this, i&#39;m fond of deferring to "classic" authors. so here&#39;s the first paragraph of charles dickens&#39; great expectations for your enjoyment:

My father&#39;s family name being Pirrip, and my christian name Philip, my infant tongue could make of both names nothing longer or more explicit than Pip. So, I called myself Pip, and came to be called Pip.

dickens continues using the much maligned "comma and" throughout the rest of the book.[/b][/quote]
Who said it was incorrect ? Did you actually read the words I posted.

Great Expectations - you are of course aware that the use of the language, particularly in the first person, was intended to show the socio-economic / educational background of the character and not the author.

Or did you think that this was a natural way for CD to write ?

The particular Pip quote (as the opening lines) denotes not only this, but the youth of the character. How else would one explain his reaction to the mysterious person he meets shortly thereafter ?

[mystikaL1337]

he can&#39;t even spell "possession"

[Spindulik]

Anytime somebody posts a topic on spelling, it turns into a pissing match.

[Vamp]

Originally posted by Sid Hartha+14 November 2003 - 21:28--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sid Hartha @ 14 November 2003 - 21:28)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Vamp@13 November 2003 - 18:24
And if you&#39;re finished school, and still make a fool of yourself on this board, I suggest you re-enroll. No offence to anyone

And if you&#39;re finished school?

Nice grammar.
BTW: you&#39;re not supposed to start a sentence with "And".

Re-enroll, learn your english composition, and come back and lecture us again soon.

kthnx [/b][/quote]
Actually, it&#39;s called "Author&#39;s License"

It&#39;s acceptable if you want to emphasis a fact or notion.

[Vamp]

Originally posted by TheCanuk+14 November 2003 - 22:16--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TheCanuk @ 14 November 2003 - 22:16)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Vamp@13 November 2003 - 18:24
No offence, but perhaps some of you should stop with the games and worry more about your school-work... And if you&#39;re finished school, and still make a fool of yourself on this board, I suggest you re-enroll. No offence to anyone

Now...

If someone is not a winner, they&#39;re a LOSER, that denotes that the lose, calling someone a looser, means that they are looser then something else that is tight... Why the hell would you call someone that?

Your - This denotes possesion... You can&#39;t say to someone "Your gay" Because most people don&#39;t own gays. Please, if you want to say someone is something, it&#39;s you&#39;re (you are) "You are gay"

You don&#39;t lend something from someone, you borrow something from someone
you don&#39;t borrow someone something, you lend someone something.

And Canuck, Sword is spelt as it&#39;s written, not SORD&#33;

Thanks for your time.

hey vamp FUCK U

and btw its Canuk dumbfuck [/b][/quote]
My God...I&#39;m trying to spare you the fuckin&#39; embarrasment that your moniker is spelt INCORRECTLY&#33;

It&#39;s spelt C-A-N-U-C-K

[Nogimics]

Originally posted by Vamp@13 November 2003 - 18:24
No offence, but perhaps some of you should stop with the games and worry more about your school-work... And if you&#39;re finished school, and still make a fool of yourself on this board, I suggest you re-enroll. No offence to anyone

Now...

If someone is not a winner, they&#39;re a LOSER, that denotes that the lose, calling someone a looser, means that they are looser then something else that is tight... Why the hell would you call someone that?

Your - This denotes possesion... You can&#39;t say to someone "Your gay" Because most people don&#39;t own gays. Please, if you want to say someone is something, it&#39;s you&#39;re (you are) "You are gay"

You don&#39;t lend something from someone, you borrow something from someone
you don&#39;t borrow someone something, you lend someone something.

And Canuck, Sword is spelt as it&#39;s written, not SORD&#33;

Thanks for your time.

bet he spell checked all of the above

[pol]

that would be embarrassment, and if you want to add any emphasis to your last post, perhaps you should add an "e"

[sparsely]

I&#39;m not gonna read this whole damn thread, so I&#39;m sure my point&#39;s been made before...so why should I bother posting it now?

[3RA1N1AC]

Originally posted by J&#39;Pol@14 November 2003 - 15:39
Or did you think that this was a natural way for CD to write ?

actually, yes, i did. in his own correspondence, dickens used "comma and" more often than you could shake a stick at. it is most definitely not a sign of poverty or poor education, despite the author&#39;s working class background. if anything, it&#39;s old fashioned and, like i said, it seems clumsy to most people nowadays because it&#39;s been deemed unnecessary.

here&#39;s an interesting article which describes "comma and" as the Oxford Comma. it&#39;s also called the Harvard Comma and the serial comma, alternately.
http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq...her/oxfordcomma

and a nice little discussion of the role of journalism in creating the mythical rule against the serial comma.
http://www.swcp.com/info/essays/serial-comma.htm

i did read precisely what you wrote, and i equated "poor form" with "incorrect." if you care to clarify the difference, or perhaps explain how poor form is suitable to poor and stupid people but unsuitable to the wealthy and educated, i&#39;m all ears.

[Billy_Dean]

Originally posted by Vamp
..that denotes that the lose, ..

What does that mean?

Why do people who set out to offend people always seem to use the expression "no offence"?