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    Quote Originally Posted by iLOVENZB View Post
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    I believe you have misunderstood what iNTERNAL means. and to top it off it's 1CD or probably more than 1CD, which is why it's internal. I don't really see them having a 36MB sample for a 700MB encode.

    Oh yeah I know how to check a pre db as well as well as the 0-day sites. That is the only scene release, which isn't per the rules a scene release, at the time of your post.
    So you're saying scene INT releases aren't scene? Does p2p even have ruleset? Going by your logic most p2p releases should be the equivilant of scene INT.

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    forgive me for saying so, but the whole premise of this thread seems like a rehash of a mac fanboy debate. Some people like scene rips, some don't. Having options is never a bad thing in a realm where quality doesn't always matter as much as some would like.
    finally a good sense post!!

    @ilovenzb -> particular examples from a particular tracker is hardly a proof or a generalization... you'll never obtain an objective point of view in this rhythm..
    I guess you're right: (AO)

    ... however there is a tracker non-obtrusive amount of torrents (tC)

    An INT scene release would not be accepted normally pre'd (unless the group purposely made it INT even if following the rules). The rip will not count towards scoring. Any other group can at any time pre an XviD following the scene ruleset. So in a way yes, a scene INT could be compared to P2P since it's not bound by scene encoding rules. The .nfo doesn't even state why they choose INT, so really no way to tell. That's not saying that probably every P2P rip won't be better than that 700ish MB scene INT.

    TC is a movie tracker, not a general tracker. They also have strict rules regarding P2P XviD uploads, as they encourage x264 over XviD at all times. But I guess you knew that already, so why you used it as an example I don't know. On the other hand TC is pretty good for new P2P uploads, since they don't have as strict rules as some of the other movie trackers. That being said, I would 99% of the time choose one from the stricter trackers if given the choice.
    Last edited by Night0wl; 12-12-2011 at 06:51 AM.
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    In the old days, if you misbehaved on a tracker, you got disabled, or worse, IP banned.

    Nowadays, there are more trackers than there are members, so if your tracker misbehaves, they get bookmark removed, or worse, URL deleted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Night0wl View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by iLOVENZB View Post
    < query > [ XviD ] The.Inbetweeners.The.Movie.2011.iNTERNAL.DVDRip.XviD-RAWNiTRO [ 49F in 735.9MB ]
    < info > The.Inbetweeners.The.Movie.2011.iNTERNAL.DVDRip.XviD-RAWNiTRO [ Comedy ]

    7th from the top on that list.
    I believe you have misunderstood what iNTERNAL means. and to top it off it's 1CD or probably more than 1CD, which is why it's internal. I don't really see them having a 36MB sample for a 700MB encode.

    Oh yeah I know how to check a pre db as well as well as the 0-day sites. That is the only scene release, which isn't per the rules a scene release, at the time of your post.
    That particular release is iNT because the source is p2p. The DVDR was leaked onto some tracker, and simply they ripped and pre'd it, and rather than go just full blown "look what we got", they'd rather keep it hush hush... unfortunately that never works.

    Scene>P2P. P2P will never be as organised, and as such, will always be inferior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TONiC View Post

    Scene>P2P. P2P will never be as organised, and as such, will always be inferior.
    That's what the ruling class in Louis the XVl's France kept telling themselves too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdolEyes787 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TONiC View Post

    Scene>P2P. P2P will never be as organised, and as such, will always be inferior.
    That's what the ruling class in Louis the XVl's France kept telling themselves too.
    Anyone with have a brain would see how ridiculous sauce's comment was, but they're also the only ones to understand the parallel you are drawing (however poorly representative it is). So that leads me to the question, what was your goal? If it's to embarrass idiots under their radar, as I have interpreted, then thank you dearly. I may show you my chest yet.
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    Put it this way: take away P2P, and the scene will still exist. Take away the scene, and p2p dies. Simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TONiC View Post
    Put it this way: take away P2P, and the scene will still exist. Take away the scene, and p2p dies. Simple.
    Instead of typing out why your statement is not just absurd, but also demonstrates your utter confusion, I would like you to do the legwork. Explain how, if the scene stepped away completely, p2p would die (instead of thrive).
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjmacky View Post
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    Put it this way: take away P2P, and the scene will still exist. Take away the scene, and p2p dies. Simple.
    Instead of typing out why your statement is not just absurd, but also demonstrates your utter confusion, I would like you to do the legwork. Explain how, if the scene stepped away completely, p2p would die (instead of thrive).
    maybe he thinks that all the p2p groups source their BR-BD source from scene
    and then do their own Kung-Fu on them
    if the scene ceased to exist, the P2P would lose their valuable and consistent supply of Source
    Because lets face it Scene is still much more organized and consistent in time and flow of releases

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjmacky View Post

    Anyone with have a brain would see how ridiculous sauce's comment was, but they're also the only ones to understand the parallel you are drawing (however poorly representative it is). So that leads me to the question, what was your goal?
    Other than finding new and ever lamer ways to amuse myself I don't think I have one.

    I would have put "to generally confound and irritate" but that's merely a fortuitous byproduct and not really a goal.

    No actually I lie ,what I really want is to be able to spout off names of various release groups with some authority in my quest to either join HDbits or God willing become part of the Scene.
    I'd also like to be a ninja and own an iPad but that's more a dream than a goal obviously.

    I'd also wouldn't mind some cake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjmacky View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IdolEyes787 View Post

    That's what the ruling class in Louis the XVl's France kept telling themselves too.
    Anyone with have a brain would see how ridiculous sauce's comment was, but they're also the only ones to understand the parallel you are drawing (however poorly representative it is). So that leads me to the question, what was your goal? If it's to embarrass idiots under their radar, as I have interpreted, then thank you dearly. I may show you my chest yet.
    guess we should wait for great revolution in filesharing and end of the scene's reign at last?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LazyGuy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mjmacky View Post

    Instead of typing out why your statement is not just absurd, but also demonstrates your utter confusion, I would like you to do the legwork. Explain how, if the scene stepped away completely, p2p would die (instead of thrive).
    maybe he thinks that all the p2p groups source their BR-BD source from scene
    and then do their own Kung-Fu on them
    if the scene ceased to exist, the P2P would lose their valuable and consistent supply of Source
    Because lets face it Scene is still much more organized and consistent in time and flow of releases
    Not familiar with you, and don't know if you have the wherewithal to coherently pre mock a response. I just know that your structure didn't do you a favor.

    Quote Originally Posted by IdolEyes787 View Post
    I would have put "to generally confound and irritate" but that's merely a fortuitous byproduct and not really a goal.
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