Why you all should all use SCENE ONLY trackers

[mjmacky]

Basically there are guarantees that there will be P2P groups that do a much better job than scene, and groups that will do a much worse job. Scene is your average mediocrity, them's just the nature of things.

[Stabber]

Remember the times when everyone got the axxo release ?

[Burnsy]

Remember the times when everyone got the axxo release ?

Am proud to say I never once downloaded an aXXo release... doesn't take much skill to wait for a DVD to be released, rip it and then deteriorate sound/bit rate to allow the film to fit to 700 (ish) MB. I'll never understand why folks thought he was 'amazing'

[IdolEyes787]

So many P2P groups giving it a bad name. Trackers could enforve a check for allowing only specific groups. Overall the user himself has to know which groups are good and which are not.

I usually go with ViSion only.

In all seriousness I really don't give a fuck.

If some poor soul wants to invest part of their limited existence trying to make sure that (mostly) unappreciative teenagers on the internet get a stolen movie in the highest possible quality then instead of applauding I suppose that I should really pity them. Likewise those seemingly obsessed with obtaining that pinnacle of quality.

Anyway if you think your enjoyment of a movie is determined by how well the filtering has been tweaked then clearly you really need to start watching more interesting movies.

[user_]

This discussion does not even need to be about p2p vs. scene or the quality of the films. Tracker staff or the uploaders should take the initiative of preserving the quality of releases, minimizing needless dupes, etc. There is no need for 35 pre-retail copies of a movie to be tracked.

[Burnsy]

Anyway if you think your enjoyment of a movie is determined by how well the filtering has been tweaked then clearly you really need to start watching more interesting movies.

Well, I kinda disagree a little if you say that enjoyment of a film isn't partially based on the quality of the rip... I mean if you wanted to take it to an exaggerated level, surely most people would prefer to watch a DVDRip, or a 720p/1080p to a CAM. the reason I'm exaggerating it is because I've seen different groups use the same sources for their rips but totally fuck up their releases due to mishaps in their filtering...

[temisturk]

Basically there are guarantees that there will be P2P groups that do a much better job than scene, and groups that will do a much worse job. Scene is your average mediocrity, them's just the nature of things.

Yes, absolutely, and a good thing too. If only a small group of people were allowed to upload only a few copies of anything then it would be much easier for the copyright trolls to focus their attentions. It is in all of our interests to encourage as many people as possible to upload, even to upload multiple identical and near-identical (and far-from-identical) copies of things. Not only does that frustrate the copyright trolls but it ensures continuity of supply of rippers/encoders/uploaders. The good ones always burn out eventually.

Sure, it means that downloaders have to engage their brains a bit when choosing what to download, but that's really not hard to do. Basic common sense will save you from the horror of a MPEG2 cam made by a ripper nobody has ever heard of uploaded by a first time uploader. And if you do end up with a slightly pixelated copy of Birdemic: Shock and Terror it's really not a big deal. It didn't cost you anything, it's a crap movie anyway, and you can always download another if you really care.

[iLOVENZB]

Basically there are guarantees that there will be P2P groups that do a much better job than scene, and groups that will do a much worse job. Scene is your average mediocrity, them's just the nature of things.

Yes, absolutely, and a good thing too. If only a small group of people were allowed to upload only a few copies of anything then it would be much easier for the copyright trolls to focus their attentions. It is in all of our interests to encourage as many people as possible to upload, even to upload multiple identical and near-identical (and far-from-identical) copies of things. Not only does that frustrate the copyright trolls but it ensures continuity of supply of rippers/encoders/uploaders. The good ones always burn out eventually.

Sure, it means that downloaders have to engage their brains a bit when choosing what to download, but that's really not hard to do. Basic common sense will save you from the horror of a MPEG2 cam made by a ripper nobody has ever heard of uploaded by a first time uploader. And if you do end up with a slightly pixelated copy of Birdemic: Shock and Terror it's really not a big deal. It didn't cost you anything, it's a crap movie anyway, and you can always download another if you really care.

Are you fucking serious?

What I love is when p2p groups actually use the shitty MPEG2 cap and say in the nfo "shit quality, but it's a first cam". This is probably one reason why I actually buy movies/go to cinema. Too many dickheads releasing shit when it's cheaper (entertainment wise) to buy and watch the "UNTOUCHED" release in the comfort of my home/cinema. And if you pull the socially awkward excuse of not liking crowds in a cinema, you had your chance but blew it! http://www.geek.com/articles/news/as...cked-20100914/

Why should the likes of (A)FACT go out of their way to help consumers now?

[Night0wl]

I don't have a problem with crowds in the cinema. I do have a problem with not a single cinema here having any decent seats for tall people. I used to love going to the cinema until I grew too tall to even enjoy going to the cinema.

But what on Earth does this have to do with you preaching that scene content is heaven sent, while P2P content is the root of all evil. The scene won't even adapt to X264 over XviD. How's that for quality?

[iLOVENZB]

Has nothing to do with preaching, all i say is that scene trackers wont have encode after encode. Btw, Night0wl, how tall are you? I'm 6ft and sit around the middle centre with no issues or complaints. Wouldn't you be better suited to the back? You're height would act as an advantage to overlook the 5ft heads?

Scene has introduced x264 with HD, People who still use XviD are prepared to skimp on quality. Besides there are a few INT SD x264 groups, they just don't don't get spread as easily. This scene mainly goes under CN X264 or RU x264. Groups like TLF, XTM, USL, BMDru, CNXP, NewMov etc. Some of these groups even have a public board where they offer DDL links or FTP.