Purchasing a computer system

[shopperpk]

So why you are worried so much for getting different products of different companies. I suggest you to buy Dell branded system with all products brand new and company installed. It will cost you less than 25k indian rupees.

[Chewie]

So why you are worried so much for getting different products of different companies. I suggest you to buy Dell branded system with all products brand new and company installed. It will cost you less than 25k indian rupees.

What the fuck are you talking about? You don't get value for money when you buy a box product; you get an underperforming, overbloated COA-linked-to-your-motherboard computer from a company whose support all too frequently consists of "pave and nuke - sorry you've lost all your data, sir."

[mjmacky]

So why you are worried so much for getting different products of different companies. I suggest you to buy Dell branded system with all products brand new and company installed. It will cost you less than 25k indian rupees.

What the fuck are you talking about? You don't get value for money when you buy a box product; you get an underperforming, overbloated COA-linked-to-your-motherboard computer from a company whose support all too frequently consists of "pave and nuke - sorry you've lost all your data, sir."

You know there was a time in the U.S. when it was actually cheaper to buy a complete branded system. It was strange because it was a middle age period for home computing prices. Here's the map of the prices as produced from my faulty memory.

pcpricematch.jpg

[mjmacky]

I could have totally made this up, but I will refuse to acknowledge any evidence to the contrary unless it is accompanied with some deconstructive analysis of why I had an HP system.

[Artemis]

So why you are worried so much for getting different products of different companies. I suggest you to buy Dell branded system with all products brand new and company installed. It will cost you less than 25k indian rupees.

What the fuck are you talking about? You don't get value for money when you buy a box product; you get an underperforming, overbloated COA-linked-to-your-motherboard computer from a company whose support all too frequently consists of "pave and nuke - sorry you've lost all your data, sir."

It gets better Chewie, the vendors, Dell, HP etc. used to provide at least a CD/DVD image to do the aforementioned nuke, now you are expected to create a recovery set yourself as a customer. For most people this is put in the I'll do it later basket, and when they REALLY need the recovery set, it is too late, the system is already unstable. At this point the vendor informs you that you can pay for a copy of the image, I deal with this all the time with both Dell and HP. If there was the ability to reach through the phone to choke the living shit out of the sanctimonious smile on the other end I would happily do so, because for the average consumer there is virtually no explanation about this, malware/virus infections trash the system and they are left with the expense of someone doing both the data retrieval and the cost of purchasing the backup image, a cost here in New Zealand of between $65-$95 plus shipping. It is an out and out rip off!

[mjmacky]

[QUOTE=Artemis;3674873]

It gets better Chewie, the vendors, Dell, HP etc. used to provide at least a CD/DVD image to do the aforementioned nuke, now you are expected to create a recovery set yourself as a customer.

I got an ISO for one of those recovery discs off a torrent once when I was doing a laptop computer repair/recovery.

[Artemis]

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I got an ISO for one of those recovery discs off a torrent once when I was doing a laptop computer repair/recovery.

They are tied to specific series, the image checks a code in the BIOS. The wrong code sequence and the recovery halts, so that image will only work for that particular series of laptop or desktop.

But on the plus side, a big ups to whoever upped the image, a decent human being, and a big finger to the corporations saving the cost of storage media, what is going to cost them 5-10 cents per copy?

[mjmacky]

[QUOTE=Artemis;3674878]

They are tied to specific series, the image checks a code in the BIOS. The wrong code sequence and the recovery halts, so having an image will only work for that particular series of laptop or desktop.

But on the plus side, a big ups to whoever upped the image, a decent human being, and a big finger to the corporations saving the cost of storage media, what is going to cost them 5-10 cents per copy?

I know that dufus, but maybe you're just stating for posterity. IIRC, it was linked on the support forum and using one of those open public trackers. I recall being surprised that there were a handful of seeders (like it wasn't > 10, but still, I was only expecting 0 or 1). Remember those public trackers like publicbt and dennis stalker? Are they even necessary nowadays?

[Artemis]

[QUOTE=mjmacky;3674882]

I know that dufus, but maybe you're just stating for posterity. IIRC, it was linked on the support forum and using one of those open public trackers. I recall being surprised that there were a handful of seeders (like it wasn't > 10, but still, I was only expecting 0 or 1). Remember those public trackers like publicbt and dennis stalker? Are they even necessary nowadays?

This is a public forum cock knocker so I was stating it for posterity, and yes public trackers are very much needed for the great unwashed, the very same people who didn't know to backup the system when they first purchased it. When your PC commits hara kiri fishing around for an invite to a private tracker isn't exactly going to be top of your priority list now is it?

[mjmacky]

This is a public forum cock knocker so I was stating it for posterity, and yes public trackers are very much needed for the great unwashed, the very same people who didn't know to backup the system when they first purchased it. When your PC commits hara kiri fishing around for an invite to a private tracker isn't exactly going to be top of your priority list now is it?

So it was like what I just said exactly word for word?

Also, I meant tracker in the truest sense of the word, the system that actually does all the tracker business, with no affiliated website (or if there is an affiliated website, it just announces they're a public tracker). That's why I gave examples. The reason I was wondering is that's how I used to fileshare mid-sized to larger files in local circles. On the rarer occasions that I do share nowadays, DDL filehosting seems to work sufficiently. I was just thinking that since the last time I've used a public tracker like publicbt, has all that DHT and peer discovery crap evolved to the point of near self-sustenance?