I Keep My Computer On 24/7

[SciManAl]

hehehehe your poeples computer will not explode unless you have:
?A; to hot of a computer.
B: a passive h20 sys will will reult in A over long periods of time
C: it is too loud and you brake it also possibly resulting in a when non of your fans work...

seriosly poeple i have been running my server comp (not supposed to be a server) for over 4 years now, comps can be on as long as you want them too, (well with exception that my light diodes will burn out after 1,000,000 hours... )

hehehehehehe

[random nut]

ide's arent mean to be on 24/7? dude u better get a source link for this....

COMPUTERS are meant to be ON not OFF, the hardware made for computers is meant for that as well....

No. Computers are meant to be ON whenever we use them.

Anyway, here's the link if you want to read the story: http://www.tecchannel.com/storage/basics/40/

[DWk]

wow i wonder what kind of joint was that guy smokin....

The publication of the power-on hours has resulted in certain - unjustified - uncertainty

it says 12% of the users have experienced problems with leavin the puter 24-7....

12% which could be assumed as a a 7 or 8% of bad drives (not good brands) and the other 5 or 4% as a power surge failure....resulting in damaging the hard drive...

this are specific cases....that article is mistaken cuz you cant generalize it cuz IBM is giving their drives its own lifetime (333 hours monthly....)

By doing this, IBM is admitting that their hard drives were made with a lousy effort on creating those drives...or puttin them on their computers....

bottom line: COMPUTERS ARE MADE TO BE ON....

No. Computers are meant to be ON whenever we use them.

so what if u want to download things while not being in your computer? does every computer have a sensor to see if you're in front of the computer? the computer is using its CPU and its RAM....thus its being USED...no matter wether humans are in front of it or not...

[h121589]

Originally posted by abu_has_the_power@18 November 2003 - 05:52
yea, thats also in the control panel.

anyways, i have a q:
i put my pc on standby, and all my fans and leds and "carnival ride" is still going. and the power light on the front of my case is still on. wtf? and does standby really save half of the energy? if it does, y r all my fans and stuff on?

ur fans should stop running and ur light is supposed 2 stay and it can turn orange or it could be green and flashing

[kurtsl0an]

hd's and other puter parts get their damage when u turn a puter ON, not when u leave it on....the electricity that surges throught them from powering it on is what may hurt them, not the steady flow of current while they're on.

duh and stuff.

[Monkeee]

Originally posted by kurtsl0an@19 November 2003 - 01:45
hd's and other puter parts get their damage when u turn a puter ON, not when u leave it on....the electricity that surges throught them from powering it on is what may hurt them, not the steady flow of current while they're on.

duh and stuff.

uh oh so should i stop?

[abu_has_the_power]

Originally posted by Monkeee+18 November 2003 - 21:27--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Monkeee @ 18 November 2003 - 21:27)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-kurtsl0an@19 November 2003 - 01:45
hd&#39;s and other puter parts get their damage when u turn a puter ON, not when u leave it on....the electricity that surges throught them from powering it on is what may hurt them, not the steady flow of current while they&#39;re on.

duh and stuff.

uh oh so should i stop? [/b][/quote]
if u don&#39;t have anything to dl, then turn it off

[random nut]

12% which could be assumed as a a 7 or 8% of bad drives (not good brands) and the other 5 or 4% as a power surge failure....resulting in damaging the hard drive...

So you&#39;ve done IDE HDD research now. Could you provide a link to your own research so the rest of us can read it. Oh wait, you just made that up.

this are specific cases....that article is mistaken cuz you cant generalize it cuz IBM is giving their drives its own lifetime (333 hours monthly....)

You don&#39;t get it. SCSI drives are their best drives. They&#39;re expensive, reliable, and fast because practically only companies buy them and put them in servers. IDE HDD drives on the other hand are used by people at home, people at work, and cheap web hosts. Most people don&#39;t leave their computers on 24/7 365 days a year and thus the manufacturers don&#39;t need to make IDE HDDs that can be on 24/7 365 days a year. That&#39;s evolution for ya.

But since you insist on being right, do an experiment. Test 5 SCSI drives and 5 IDE drives. Leave them running (simulate a file server) and see which one crashes last. You know that SCSI drives will crash much later than the IDE drives simply because they&#39;re designed to be on 24/7 365 days a year.

[kurtsl0an]

Originally posted by random nut@19 November 2003 - 04:33
You know that SCSI drives will crash much later than the IDE drives simply because they&#39;re designed to be on 24/7 365 days a year.

damn....how come i&#39;ve had 2 replace many scsi drives (luckily hot swappable w/raid 5) for myself and some of my clients servers?

i will not agree that scsi is more stable than ide....scsi is faster and allows you to add more channels than ide...

i know this isn&#39;t my argument, so sorry for cuttin in -

[MadDog-2000]

Originally posted by random nut@18 November 2003 - 22:33

12% which could be assumed as a a 7 or 8% of bad drives (not good brands) and the other 5 or 4% as a power surge failure....resulting in damaging the hard drive...

So you&#39;ve done IDE HDD research now. Could you provide a link to your own research so the rest of us can read it. Oh wait, you just made that up.

this are specific cases....that article is mistaken cuz you cant generalize it cuz IBM is giving their drives its own lifetime (333 hours monthly....)

You don&#39;t get it. SCSI drives are their best drives. They&#39;re expensive, reliable, and fast because practically only companies buy them and put them in servers. IDE HDD drives on the other hand are used by people at home, people at work, and cheap web hosts. Most people don&#39;t leave their computers on 24/7 365 days a year and thus the manufacturers don&#39;t need to make IDE HDDs that can be on 24/7 365 days a year. That&#39;s evolution for ya.

But since you insist on being right, do an experiment. Test 5 SCSI drives and 5 IDE drives. Leave them running (simulate a file server) and see which one crashes last. You know that SCSI drives will crash much later than the IDE drives simply because they&#39;re designed to be on 24/7 365 days a year.

random nut is absolutly right&#33;

ATA/IDE drives are not designed for this kind of stress only SCSI drives have these durable components in them that make them so darn tough. The only ATA/IDE drive that comes even close to SCSI performance and quality is the Raptor from Western Digital, which is the only drive that offers SCSI-like technologies in an ATA/IDE drive.

I have read dozens of studies that show that IDE/ATA drives have a much, much higer failure rate than SCSI drives, unfortunetly I can not quote any sources but I am sure you guys will find them somewhere, if you search for it.

And to those of you who leave the PC running 24/7 to download stuff, I really hope you have a SCSI/Raptor drive or at least a back-up of all your files. One day when you sit in front of your PC and write a letter or something like that and your drive crashes, even if it is just 1 year old or so, and you loose all your files because of a disk head crash or bad clusters all over the drive, you will know the differance/importance&#33;

BTW: I use an ATA/IDE drive for almost 24 hours a day but I do a weekly disk-to-disk backup of all my files on an identical drive that is mostly off, wrapped in anti-static wrap and locked up in a fireproof box, which sits in another room. Call me paranoid but I never lost a single byte of data&#33;