I think I know what's up with Idol.

[mjmacky]

Sorry Art, but try as you might, I detest the U.S. far more than you do.

[Artemis]

Sorry Art, but try as you might, I detest the U.S. far more than you do.

I don't detest the U.S., I detest it's creepy neo-fascist political system, but the people are lovely, vacant but lovely.

[ckrit]

I just so larf at the merkin 'wars' of the last 40 years or so where they pick on some shit pot little island or country barely able to line up 3 lee enfield rifles, a sopwith camel, and a breech loading 110 pounder cannon, then zap the shit out of them with shock and awe then eiffel tower the fuck out of each other with good job buddy.

That's not the funniest part.

The funniest part is that they got pwnt to fuckery in the vietnam war, only that doesn't count, because it was just a conflict or whatevs.

Hence, America has never lost a war. And some of them manage to say this with a straight face.

[mjmacky]

but the people are lovely,

They are not

vacant

They are

but lovely.

Not

[Artemis]

I just so larf at the merkin 'wars' of the last 40 years or so where they pick on some shit pot little island or country barely able to line up 3 lee enfield rifles, a sopwith camel, and a breech loading 110 pounder cannon, then zap the shit out of them with shock and awe then eiffel tower the fuck out of each other with good job buddy.

That's not the funniest part.

The funniest part is that they got pwnt to fuckery in the vietnam war, only that doesn't count, because it was just a conflict or whatevs.

Hence, America has never lost a war. And some of them manage to say this with a straight face.

I actually purposely left that one out, because they had lots of other little wars there too, that they didn't mention, in secret, on the side, like the fact that in 11 days in 1970 they dropped more bombs on Cambodia, a country they weren't actually at war at, than they dropped on the whole of Japan in World War 2. They also invaded Thailand and Laos, two other countries they weren't at war with for good measure.

[megabyteme]

That's not the funniest part.

The funniest part is that they got pwnt to fuckery in the vietnam war, only that doesn't count, because it was just a conflict or whatevs.

Hence, America has never lost a war. And some of them manage to say this with a straight face.

I actually purposely left that one out, because they had lots of other little wars there too, that they didn't mention, in secret, on the side, like the fact that in 11 days in 1970 they dropped more bombs on Cambodia, a country they weren't actually at war at, than they dropped on the whole of Japan in World War 2. They also invaded Thailand and Laos, two other countries they weren't at war with for good measure.

I think it's safe to put those in the "win" category, then.

[mjmacky]

I actually purposely left that one out, because they had lots of other little wars there too, that they didn't mention, in secret, on the side, like the fact that in 11 days in 1970 they dropped more bombs on Cambodia, a country they weren't actually at war at, than they dropped on the whole of Japan in World War 2. They also invaded Thailand and Laos, two other countries they weren't at war with for good measure.

I think it's safe to put those in the "win" category, then.

Conquering more Asian booty is a win indeed. What's a buffet without Panang punani?

[Artemis]

I think it's safe to put those in the "win" category, then.

Conquering more Asian booty is a win indeed. What's a buffet without Panang punani?

It's not really a win if you weren't at war with them in the first place? If you extrapolate that out why are you so pissy about Pearl Harbor then? If it is so perfectly reasonable to just rock up unannounced and bomb the shit out of other unsuspecting countries, why bawl when it happens to you?

[mjmacky]

Conquering more Asian booty is a win indeed. What's a buffet without Panang punani?

It's not really a win if you weren't at war with them in the first place? If you extrapolate that out why are you so pissy about Pearl Harbor then? If it is so perfectly reasonable to just rock up unannounced and bomb the shit out of other unsuspecting countries, why bawl when it happens to you?

What? Also, what?

I didn't know you have to be in a war to win anything. If you have a lot pent up frustration from not being selected to participate in "Ask an American", I'm the wrong guy for this line dance. Last I checked, Pearl Harbor was a naval base and I don't see much wrong with one military attacking another military location, especially considering that the U.S. was plenty involved in the conflict beforehand. My general stance is that I do not care for militaries, period.

[Artemis]

It's not really a win if you weren't at war with them in the first place? If you extrapolate that out why are you so pissy about Pearl Harbor then? If it is so perfectly reasonable to just rock up unannounced and bomb the shit out of other unsuspecting countries, why bawl when it happens to you?

What? Also, what?

I didn't know you have to be in a war to win anything. If you have a lot pent up frustration from not being selected to participate in "Ask an American", I'm the wrong guy for this line dance. Last I checked, Pearl Harbor was a naval base and I don't see much wrong with one military attacking another military location, especially considering that the U.S. was plenty involved in the conflict beforehand. My general stance is that I do not care for militaries, period.

Drat....and double drat

And here was me laying out my best baited cheese and all. Well I feel quite ripped off. Personally I have always been amazed that the Americans placed an oil embargo on the one nation in the hemisphere that was equal in military strength to them, forcing them to the brink of economic collapse, and then were appalled when that nation attacked them. It didn't take a psychic to figure that one out, and the Japanese had a habit of doing it, they nailed the Russians exactly the same way in 1904 at Port Arthur.

War has always interested me, more the politics behind the war, than the wars themselves, although some of the gaffs along the way have been truly marvelous too. One of my all time favorites was a little logistical gaff from the crimean war. It involved getting some much needed boots out to the troops, 10,000 boots in fact, they were packed on two ships, 10,000 left boots on one ship, and 10,000 right boots on the other. Take a wild guess what happened next?