I think I know what's up with Idol.

[manker]

Unswervingly proud Americans are a must at any forum - those slant eyed devil internet harshists have got a lot to answer for.
Let me know if they come back, I'm going to issue a forumular disbansion to them as a people.

I think I know how it happened. In the olden days you'd always have someone, like cheebus, or you, or even me, ready to point out any and all flaws of american gun laws, take on religion, environmental politics and so on, and so forth in the drawering room.

Now that we've flogged those dead horses into oblivion, we're all kind of meh about it. So they've got no one to fight.



And without that, they're turning on themselves, much as I imagine the country would if they couldn't pick a fight with someone else.

You're right.
Once Busy said about having a gun in each of the seven corners of his house and provided everyone with at least seventeen memes which are still used to this very day, I lost interest in the whole 'americans are wrong about everything' deal.

It's not only Dave who would fit your above descriptive, btw.
The would probably still be able to pull it off.

[Artemis]

I think I know how it happened. In the olden days you'd always have someone, like cheebus, or you, or even me, ready to point out any and all flaws of american gun laws, take on religion, environmental politics and so on, and so forth in the drawering room.

Now that we've flogged those dead horses into oblivion, we're all kind of meh about it. So they've got no one to fight.



And without that, they're turning on themselves, much as I imagine the country would if they couldn't pick a fight with someone else.

You're right.
Once Busy said about having a gun in each of the seven corners of his house and provided everyone with at least seventeen memes which are still used to this very day, I lost interest in the whole 'americans are wrong about everything' deal.

It's not only Dave who would fit your above descriptive, btw.
The would probably still be able to pull it off.

Maybe we could convince that Squeamous is actually an American?

[megabyteme]

I'm still pro-gun, if that counts for anything. I don't carry one anymore, but used to have a Heckler & Koch .45 with me along with a concealed carry permit. I've got a few guns in the house, and feel they are more of a plus than a negative. I have taught my wife how to shoot (perhaps not the best idea I've ever had ), and we bought a shotgun for her for home defense. She is FAR more comfortable having the ability to defend herself when I'm not home than she would be without. My kids will learn gun safety as soon as they are old/mature enough. I am sure we will be adding a gun safe (a responsible thing to do with kids) soon.

[IdolEyes787]

I am sure we will be adding a gun safe (a responsible thing to do with kids) soon.

One of these thing's is not like the others.One of these things doesn't belong......

[megabyteme]

I am sure we will be adding a gun safe (a responsible thing to do with kids) soon.

One of these thing's is not like the others.One of these things doesn't belong......

Given absolute power, I'd dis-invent guns- as long as I could dis-invent thugs, murderers, and rapists, and anyone else who imposes their will on weaker individuals.

[IdolEyes787]

Also knives,swords,morning stars ,maces,halberds,spears,pointy sticks , large rocks........

[megabyteme]

Also knives,swords,morning stars ,maces,halberds,spears,pointy sticks , large rocks........

That's kinda my point- I'd rather have the option of thwarting an attacker than being at his "kind" nature... The idea of "give 'em whatever they want" is not always an option. some people enjoy harming others.

EDIT- Do you think you could rationally talk into leaving? We''ve tried for a full year. some people you just have to shoot to get through to...

[chalice]

I've never had a gun in my hand. I'm quite proud of that, and there's very little of me that I can say I'm proud of. True story.

[megabyteme]

I've never had a gun in my hand. I'm quite proud of that, and there's very little of me that I can say I'm proud of. True story.

I don't want to know what parts have held a gun, then.

[Artemis]

I'm still pro-gun, if that counts for anything. I don't carry one anymore, but used to have a Heckler & Koch .45 with me along with a concealed carry permit. I've got a few guns in the house, and feel they are more of a plus than a negative. I have taught my wife how to shoot (perhaps not the best idea I've ever had ), and we bought a shotgun for her for home defense. She is FAR more comfortable having the ability to defend herself when I'm not home than she would be without. My kids will learn gun safety as soon as they are old/mature enough. I am sure we will be adding a gun safe (a responsible thing to do with kids) soon.

I still have one unchangeable argument Mr. progun, why is shooting death the second cause of death in america, for instance in 2009 gun death in America from all causes took the lives of 31,347 Americans, that is more than 85 a day or 3 an hour. Nowhere else in the world comes remotely close. There are countries out there with populations in the billions who aren't popping each other off with such efficiency.

But then most countries don't take the meaning of gun ownership to having your own private arsenal. ' I've got a few guns in the house......and bought a shotgun for home defense'. Not the most accurate of weapons after 15 feet and guaranteed to make indiscriminate holes in your home and maybe your kids too, if you wife is panicked but your choice there.
It's this whole me against them mentality and the general fear whipped up by the media in the states, nowhere else in the world do you see the general populace constantly bombarded by constant threats.

Do you know why you need to arm yourselves? 10.5% of the population is homeless, 37 million of them are kept moving by the police like a great fucking herd, another 15% are below the poverty line, they have a choice if they get ill for instance, get medicine or eat? how is that for a choice? That is before you even tackle the drug problem. Now in the U.S. we don't tackle our drug problem with rehabilitation programs which drain the taxpayers, we just lock the degenerates up away from godfearing folks eyes.