People on this board need to be more tolerant toward the people who are different

[SomePeople]

I like rejectofAllah because he's always been nice to me. I don't know him personally, so I don't know if he's actually a "liar", as you call him.

I have lied OlegL

In all of this I have told quite a few lies, all them threats for example. I was deliberately behaving in the same way as I have been behaved towards, so I feel no problem with it.

[mjmacky]

Whilst you're at it, maybe you'd care to explain why I would eject someone from my life with the words "Now fuck off" and then want them back in it and stalk them?

So crazy exists in your world too?

[Artemis]

Whilst you're at it, maybe you'd care to explain why I would eject someone from my life with the words "Now fuck off" and then want them back in it and stalk them?

Then there's the small factor of the missing posts and PMs where I posted anything at her to try and engage in discussion or conversation with her.

The only posts I made in respose to her were three posts about firedoors when it became apparent that you fuckers were all clueless, and she was asking for advice, each post was carefully worded so that it couldn't elicit direct replies.

I know you all think she is wonderful and that I must be completely mad to not want her in my life, so must have been here for that purpose. It's a shame that's not the case, and that you can't produce anything to support your thoughts about that.

Well this is where my eidetic memory trumps your decidedly fuzzy memory yet again stalker boi, you actually told me of your sad little plan (albeit in a weird disjointed reverse order) but the highlights are this: After we told Squeamous to Jog on our hero was left with all the detritus of the relationship so he emailed her going Oi! dya want yer shit back. Sort of understandably at the time she didn't reply, so he decided to drop it all off at her work, unfortunately being a high security genetic research lab, this part of the plan ran afoul of the security team, woops! (but we aren't a stalker no sirreee!!!!!!) Of course Squeamous was notified of this. More furious e-mails by our hero which weren't returned..... so he rocked up and left said stuff outside her place........ isn't that a nice rational healthy thing to do.

This of course isn't the only occasion that you turned up unbidden at her home after the end of the relationship.
So what do we have, you turning up at your ex-girlfriends house uninvited on your own 'impulses', there was no reason for you to be there apart from that. This is a legal definition of stalking, however you wish to debate it, you were physically there on more than one occasion, you are the one who does not want to let it go.

[mjmacky]

I like rejectofAllah because he's always been nice to me. I don't know him personally, so I don't know if he's actually a "liar", as you call him.

I have lied OlegL

In all of this I have told quite a few lies, all them threats for example. I was deliberately behaving in the same way as I have been behaved towards, so I feel no problem with it.

He was talking about rejectofAllah, not you Dave.

[Quarterquack]

I have lied OlegL

In all of this I have told quite a few lies, all them threats for example. I was deliberately behaving in the same way as I have been behaved towards, so I feel no problem with it.

He was talking about rejectofAllah, not you Dave.

I read the entire thread and was about to dismiss it as a waste of a few pages, but then I read this gem. You're brilliant.

[SomePeople]

Well this is where my eidetic memory trumps your decidedly fuzzy memory yet again stalker boi, you actually told me of your sad little plan (albeit in a weird disjointed reverse order) but the highlights are this: After we told Squeamous to Jog on our hero was left with all the detritus of the relationship so he emailed her going Oi! dya want yer shit back. Sort of understandably at the time she didn't reply, so he decided to drop it all off at her work, unfortunately being a high security genetic research lab, this part of the plan ran afoul of the security team, woops! (but we aren't a stalker no sirreee!!!!!!) Of course Squeamous was notified of this. More furious e-mails by our hero which weren't returned..... so he rocked up and left said stuff outside her place........ isn't that a nice rational healthy thing to do.

Ummm actually I did try to reply to that last time you posted it, but mankers ban and the moderation stopped that post.

I'm not a materialistic bloke, the value of things isn't in having them, or what they're worth (which is why I didn't have a problem with talking amounts of money with MBM). The value is in the sentiment of the person giving the gift.

When the reality of what our friendship was became apparent to me, I sent her emails asking her what she wanted me to do with them (after I broke it off). I offered to destroy them or return them (they were nice things she might well wanted them back for their value for all I knew). She ignored those emails. I did keep hoping she would just say 'bin them' I didn't want to have to see her again.

I did what I thought was the right thing, which was return them to her. It seemed wasteful (and immature) to destroy perfectly good stuff just because those things no longer meant anything to me. I did take them to her workplace, and I went to the security hut, who phoned her. She obviously told them she wssn't coming down to collect them. There was no scene, I turned and left.

I then sat outside and tried to call her to ask her to come and collect them myself. I didn't want any confrontation, I just wanted to return her things. I had put in several hours to drive there, because I felt it was the right (adult) thing to return them. I felt she should have at least been adult enough to come and collect them. She had been spending hours of her time with me when it had suited her, I had repeatedly rearranged my days to suit her, when it suited her, I didn't think it was too much to ask her to spend five more minutes collecting her things. I pressed that rather hard, because being who she is, she refused to take my calls, just hanging up.

I did consider driving down to her flat and catching her as she left for work, but decided she obviosly didn't want to see me (for fuck knows what reason) and so decided the trick would be to time my arrival to be able to drop the bag outside her place just before she left for work. So she would get the things, but not have to see me. That was what I did.

There was never any intention to confront her. There was no confrontation at her place of work. I gave her the option to have me just dispose of those things, she ignored that. In all good conscience I couldn't destroy perfectly good stuff. I'm meant to be an adult, I'm meant to be beyond destroying stuff in fits of anger. I'm meant to be able to act as an adult. That was what I was trying to do.

Three weeks I waited for an answer about what she wanted me to do... three weeks. I didn't go rushing down there to confront her.

[SomePeople]

This of course isn't the only occasion that you turned up unbidden at her home after the end of the relationship.
So what do we have, you turning up at your ex-girlfriends house uninvited on your own 'impulses', there was no reason for you to be there apart from that. This is a legal definition of stalking, however you wish to debate it, you were physically there on more than one occasion, you are the one who does not want to let it go.

I recently covered my visit to her flat. As I pointed out to MBM, I had every right to go and ask her to live upto her real life promise to stay away from me. Of course I didn't know it was too late to make any difference and that she was the source who had fed chavis at that time.

As for me going to her place unbidden, she never had a problem with me doing that either at her work or outside her home for the previous five years when her lies were getting her what she wanted.

[SomePeople]

So crazy exists in your world too?

An entire year+ of it.

[megabyteme]

Be sure to include links to your "faked" death threats. That'll make 'em laugh.

Everyone knows any and every threat I've made isn't a real threat, you've all posted appropriate posts to confirm that MBM... Cheers for that, mate.

I don't know, you are mental enough, bitter enough, stupid enough. And gosh darn it, people dislike you... (Kinda an anti-Stuart Smalley just for you, Dave.)

[Artemis]

Why oh why are there only two options? And why would you drive from Wales to London just to return the gifts? Re-gift them to your friends, co-workers, or give them to any number of grateful goodwill charities?

The ex pops up at work and security notifies you, what do you do? Well almost invariably most women are going to go fuck! and proceed to hide, it isn't exactly a conducive situation when you think it through?

Others are feeding this though and I don't really have any wish to, so for my part you need to move on, I don't know what you are after here but the pattern will simply repeat, if you enjoy that then carry on, if not move on.