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    Quote Originally Posted by anon View Post
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    peerblock does work, but if you want to be anonymous try TOR or a VPN, tor is free and the project is awesome, although well its slow
    Tor isn't for P2P or heavy downloads. You cripple the network if you use it for such purposes, so please don't even consider it a possibility.

    Oh and, thank you n00bz0r
    Damn Right, wasn't even thinking, well he talked about being anonymous and well TOR came to mind,

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    The most anonymous, and gives you the most control is to rent a small VPS (Virtual Private Server) with a Linux distro on it then install OpenVPN and configure it. Then you have complete anonymous control of your own VPN with your own logs etc. The downside being you need to be able to configure the system yourself (it's not rocket science and there are all help files people ready to help if you have specific questions all over the place).

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    I was actually thinking about experimenting with Tor for torrent downloading. The only thing that was holding me back was the strange fact that I like internet explorer, and from what iv'e read you need to use firefox. I have done some research on the subject, and heard from lots of people not to use it for that, and that it's wrong, but I haven't heard much facts. Does anyone actually have some experience or proof on the matter, or is it akin to a fairy tale to frighten children, or telling your son he will get hairy palms?
    Why can Vuze be set up for Tor in the darn settings ? I realize it's probably not nice to use Tor in this way, but I am simply curious, and only intellectually speaking at this point. It would be interesting for me to see some real results particularly on speeds vs vpns both upload and download results. I have an old computer ( theoretically speaking ) which I sometimes sacrifice it's integrity for certain experiments.....
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  4. BitTorrent   -   #14
    Quote Originally Posted by mlindsay View Post
    I have done some research on the subject, and heard from lots of people not to use it for that, and that it's wrong, but I haven't heard much facts.
    Alright, here are some.
    • It's slow.
    • The network wasn't designed or meant for it.
    • You clog the connections of the nodes your data go through, making things slower for others as well. Most of said nodes are the home computers of people like you and me.
    • You could get your exit node in legal trouble, by downloading and uploading files while he's not even aware it's happening.


    Why can Vuze be set up for Tor in the darn settings ?
    http://wiki.vuze.com/w/Tor

    Check the bolded sentences.
    "I just remembered something that happened a long time ago."

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    Thanks anon, that is very good info. I didn't know about the legal implications of my exit node, and that certainly doesn't sound like ground I want to tread on. However, it does lead into what I believe to be a good question : If my exit node is at risk of being exposed how anonymous is Tor really ?

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    Think of Tor as like this: a torrent wave for browsing the internet. Instead of sharing the data amongst each other, you're anonymously pooling and sharing your IP addresses. You can be someone else's exit node as easily as someone being yours. You're basically anonymous because you're all playing telephone in a crowd.
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  7. BitTorrent   -   #17
    Quote Originally Posted by mlindsay View Post
    However, it does lead into what I believe to be a good question : If my exit node is at risk of being exposed how anonymous is Tor really ?
    Quote Originally Posted by mjmacky View Post
    Think of Tor as like this: a torrent wave for browsing the internet. Instead of sharing the data amongst each other, you're anonymously pooling and sharing your IP addresses. You can be someone else's exit node as easily as someone being yours. You're basically anonymous because you're all playing telephone in a crowd.
    This. It's the same idea behind JonDo and GoogleSharing. If everyone had the same IP and client setup, tracking down a particular user would be virtually impossible - so, by sharing IPs and (in JonDo's case) having as many people as possible use the same browser settings, it makes it much harder.

    If you want to do a little reading on the concept of anonymization through blending, click here.
    "I just remembered something that happened a long time ago."

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlindsay View Post
    I was actually thinking about experimenting with Tor for torrent downloading.
    Use it for connecting to The Deep Web instead. You'll find a lot more interesting things there than you would on some torrent tracker.

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    ^ No kidding, really.
    That's the only thing Tor is useful for.

    Tor is super-slow and not suitable for downloading anything, in my opinion. I would only use it if I was so serious about obfuscating my IP that I wouldn't mind waiting a whole week for a HD episode of The Vampire Diaries. Browsing (slowly) is about all I've ever done with it as I've quickly given up on any downloads that I started.

    This was a few years ago, great strides may have been made in the Tor software but I sincerely doubt it. I've not read anything to make me want to give it another try. I have, however, read many things that have made me want to stay the fuck away from it since many of its users don't use it correctly and do silly things like leave Javascript enabled. This means that your node could be contaminated by a stupid paedophile since that is the one hobby Tor is actually well suited to facilitating.

    Avoid.
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  10. BitTorrent   -   #20
    Quote Originally Posted by manker View Post
    Tor is super-slow and not suitable for downloading anything, in my opinion. I would only use it if I was so serious about obfuscating my IP that I wouldn't mind waiting a whole week for a HD episode of The Vampire Diaries.
    Go to an Internet cafe, download it to a USB stick, pay cash, use gloves.
    "I just remembered something that happened a long time ago."

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