I think I just end up getting trolled on dating sites

[mjmacky]

Show me the picture of your wife. If she's good looking, then I wanna fuck her.

My wife is no prude and I'd even argue her standards are a bit non existent, but I can guarantee she'd never fuck you. I'm sure that even if you drugged her, she'd come out of her comatose state to leap through the glass window of an 8th floor apartment and land on a small Mitsubishi hauler. The driver would let her in and she'd blow him until the end of his load. So, I'm just asking, what would be the point for you to even entertain the idea?

[OlegL]

Show me the picture of your wife. If she's good looking, then I wanna fuck her.

My wife is no prude and I'd even argue her standards are a bit non existent, but I can guarantee she'd never fuck you. I'm sure that even if you drugged her, she'd come out of her comatose state to leap through the glass window of an 8th floor apartment and land on a small Mitsubishi hauler. The driver would let her in and she'd blow him until the end of his load. So, I'm just asking, what would be the point for you to even entertain the idea?

There would be no point for me to do that, since you just explained to me that she would never fuck me.

[Squeamous]

I thought I only come on here to force my opinions onto everyone else.


More like, "is remaining in my romanceless relationship holding me back from anything else?"

That's why I come here! Wow....this is going almost as well as one of your troll logs.

At the moment your romanceless marriage doesn't seem to be holding you back from acting like a total tit on dating websites. Perhaps it should. If there's anything good or wholesome left in your marriage you could use it for that.

You need a slap around the chops, sunshine! How much 'romance' are you going to achieve anyway? How do you work out the bedshare arrangements with your wife? Do you hang a penis pump off the door knob when you're occupied, while she hangs a diaphragm off it when she's got someone in there? Do you all have breakfast together in the morning? When do you announce that you're in a marriage of convenience and just hoping to dip your toe into a woman's mind/vagina while you sort yourself out? First date? Night before the wedding? Honeymoon?

This is all a horrible, cynical, crass display of selfishness, which is what went wrong in the first place. Change the record and TRY to be decent for God's sake!

[Squeamous]

Maybe, but I think one of my other friends already has her out on the pavement. He's been dodging me as of late, I think I have to console him at some point to let him know it's OK to be fucking my wife. I like the guy and don't take any pleasure watching the normal expectations of society causing him discomfort during his extra coitus life.

And this is where you're going wrong. The normal expectations of society should always be questioned, but to discard them altogether is a waste of thousands of years of hominid evolution. You're adrift on a very choppy moral sea in a leaky boat with no rudder.

[mjmacky]

And this is where you're going wrong. The normal expectations of society should always be questioned, but to discard them altogether is a waste of thousands of years of hominid evolution. You're adrift on a very choppy moral sea in a leaky boat with no rudder.

Yeah, no, it's not working like that. I've stated that I'm honestly not having an issue with the situation, but too much regard for social expectations keeps me from getting fully heard. I do have an issue with that.

Also, that thousands of years shit would demonstrate monogamy is horseshit if you're paying attention to reality over history. Therefore, why should we treat it like any other non sacred behavior.

[manker]

mbm thinks that mary's wife is a ferrari.
mary is having marital difficulties.

Do I hear the jingle jangle of car-keys.

Maybe, but I think one of my other friends already has her out on the pavement. He's been dodging me as of late, I think I have to console him at some point to let him know it's OK to be fucking my wife. I like the guy and don't take any pleasure watching the normal expectations of society causing him discomfort during his extra coitus life.

Just because you don't hold those values, it doesn't mean that this guy is similarly aligned.
In fact, I'd be amazed if that was the case.

He will be fully aware that you just _don't_ fuck your mate's wife. Hence the dodging.
Draw what conclusions you will, mine are - from admittedly less data than you're able to use - that the guy is a complete prick who has little or no regard for you.

[Squeamous]

Maybe, but I think one of my other friends already has her out on the pavement. He's been dodging me as of late, I think I have to console him at some point to let him know it's OK to be fucking my wife. I like the guy and don't take any pleasure watching the normal expectations of society causing him discomfort during his extra coitus life.

Just because you don't hold those values, it doesn't mean that this guy is similarly aligned.
In fact, I'd be amazed if that was the case.

He will be fully aware that you just _don't_ fuck your mate's wife. Hence the dodging.
Draw what conclusions you will, mine are - from admittedly less data than you're able to use - that the guy is a complete prick who has little or no regard for you.

Exactly.

You can be as enlightened as you like Mary, but other people are still following those old rules. And even if you're not allowing them to dictate your life you can still incorporate them into a basic plan for decency: honesty and integrity are never going to go out of fashion. Back when I was doing the whole sex without strings thing I still had a raft of rules to ensure I still had respect for people and wasn't treating them as little more than sexual resources. It's bad for the soul otherwise. Tbh though I've even lost my stomach for that now. The whole thing is born of all the worst traits in human nature.
Also, can't your wife find other people to fuck than your friends FFS?

[mjmacky]

At the moment your romanceless marriage doesn't seem to be holding you back from acting like a total tit on dating websites.

You appear to be extrapolating, I'm not always a tit. Those nice and thoughtful messages rarely get read, let alone receive a reply. I also don't reply to messages that start off with, "hi, how is your morning" from a complete stranger.

How much 'romance' are you going to achieve anyway? How do you work out the bedshare arrangements with your wife? Do you hang a penis pump off the door knob when you're occupied, while she hangs a diaphragm off it when she's got someone in there? Do you all have breakfast together in the morning? When do you announce that you're in a marriage of convenience and just hoping to dip your toe into a woman's mind/vagina while you sort yourself out? First date? Night before the wedding? Honeymoon?

This is all a horrible, cynical, crass display of selfishness, which is what went wrong in the first place. Change the record and TRY to be decent for God's sake!

I don't understand that first question, so I can't answer it. We sleep in the same bed, we don't use our apartment for those activities. Anyone that considers us a close friend knows all the details of our relationship. If you think I'm at times too candid here, you should see how I am in person.

To give an example, with that Sara girl, I told her about it when she asked why I don't have a significant other. It's just when it comes up, I won't lie about it.

We could come back around to the same argument about being a vital man or whatever you were talking about that one time, but being "decent" doesn't have any automatic appeal. That really depends on the implied connotation, and anything beyond not evil isn't grabbing my interest.

[megabyteme]

There's usually an imbalance in this sort of "no strings attached", free-for-all sex that tips in the favor of the woman (if she so desires). It's just more difficult for a guy to get laid than a woman. What is the "score", or ratio of you getting stranger sex to her exploits. That is where jealousy seems to build...

[mjmacky]

There's usually an imbalance in this sort of "no strings attached", free-for-all sex that tips in the favor of the woman (if she so desires). It's just more difficult for a guy to get laid than a woman. What is the "score", or ratio of you getting stranger sex to her exploits. That is where jealousy seems to build...

No scores are kept and there's no jealousy involved. Honesty was the problem.