is usenet drying up?

[user3240]

The real difference between other sharing platforms and Usenet is and always will be that most all other platforms work together and share information in many forms to get to the widest audience. Usenet however and i have said this before is a kill or be killed mentality and communities are reluctant to cross share information. Whats brought attention to Usenet? GREED. Usenet is only accountable per head an extremely small % compared to all other platforms. Usenet has been this way for years and no as much as we all want change it will never change.

I agree with the above it takes a lot of brain power, knowledge and patience to get to the files you want. Usenet is no longer n00b friendly but only saving grace is most things appear eventually. Best advice i would give n00bs starting to use Usenet

1.Avoid most newznab clones as out of about 40/50 i have only 3/4 worth a visit.
2.Avoid sites that restrict files until they rifle through your wallet for what they get.
3.Use sites like FST that are free to use. There are only maybe 2 others like FST in forum form that look at you as a member not another wallet to empty.
4.Be aware that a few sites out there are owned by the same person and you could indeed end up paying if you choose the same person multiple times.
5.Well have fun doing it as Usenet can be fun as too are some of the characters you will come across.

Lastly Usenet is in transition with the take downs it has adjusted well but to the detriment of its user base. Patience is key here as its only been a few months and i have faith Usenet will bounce back in all its glory.

Your post should be required reading for everybody on Usenet. GREED and EGO has divided usenet. Even before the demise of the Matrix, usenet was divided in many ways. Almost all of the NZB groups started the same way. Somebody would get pissed off at an admin or moderator and start a new group. Some would stay loyal to the old group. Some would pledge loyalty to the new group. Some would try to stay in the middle. Some of these groups would try to have "exclusive" content. A few would even passcode their releases. It never works. There will always be people who feel that "pirate DRM" violates the spirit of Usenet. That means that people will always leak things in IRC or other groups. Unless you just have a small indexer shared between a few friends there is no such thing as a private group.

After the demise of the Matrix, a bunch of new newsnab sites opened up. Most of them thought that if they opened up an index site that the money would rain in. A few of them rename some of the encoded releases. None of them have all or even most of the encoded releases. Others are simply indexers. All of them will talk about their " enormous" server costs. Most of them try to get money out of you by promising you this pot of gold full of releases after they get your donation.

It was the Matrix itself that brought all kinds of unwanted attention to Usenet. Usenet has already bounced back. It's just taken on another form. There are places you can find the encoded releases. It does take more knowledge and patience.

[Alien5]

The real difference between other sharing platforms and Usenet is and always will be that most all other platforms work together and share information in many forms to get to the widest audience. Usenet however and i have said this before is a kill or be killed mentality and communities are reluctant to cross share information. Whats brought attention to Usenet? GREED. Usenet is only accountable per head an extremely small % compared to all other platforms. Usenet has been this way for years and no as much as we all want change it will never change.

I agree with the above it takes a lot of brain power, knowledge and patience to get to the files you want. Usenet is no longer n00b friendly but only saving grace is most things appear eventually. Best advice i would give n00bs starting to use Usenet

1.Avoid most newznab clones as out of about 40/50 i have only 3/4 worth a visit.
2.Avoid sites that restrict files until they rifle through your wallet for what they get.
3.Use sites like FST that are free to use. There are only maybe 2 others like FST in forum form that look at you as a member not another wallet to empty.
4.Be aware that a few sites out there are owned by the same person and you could indeed end up paying if you choose the same person multiple times.
5.Well have fun doing it as Usenet can be fun as too are some of the characters you will come across.

Lastly Usenet is in transition with the take downs it has adjusted well but to the detriment of its user base. Patience is key here as its only been a few months and i have faith Usenet will bounce back in all its glory.

Your post should be required reading for everybody on Usenet. GREED and EGO has divided usenet. Even before the demise of the Matrix, usenet was divided in many ways. Almost all of the NZB groups started the same way. Somebody would get pissed off at an admin or moderator and start a new group. Some would stay loyal to the old group. Some would pledge loyalty to the new group. Some would try to stay in the middle. Some of these groups would try to have "exclusive" content. A few would even passcode their releases. It never works. There will always be people who feel that "pirate DRM" violates the spirit of Usenet. That means that people will always leak things in IRC or other groups. Unless you just have a small indexer shared between a few friends there is no such thing as a private group.

After the demise of the Matrix, a bunch of new newsnab sites opened up. Most of them thought that if they opened up an index site that the money would rain in. A few of them rename some of the encoded releases. None of them have all or even most of the encoded releases. Others are simply indexers. All of them will talk about their " enormous" server costs. Most of them try to get money out of you by promising you this pot of gold full of releases after they get your donation.

It was the Matrix itself that brought all kinds of unwanted attention to Usenet. Usenet has already bounced back. It's just taken on another form. There are places you can find the encoded releases. It does take more knowledge and patience.

Tldr

[savagestranger]

It's still as newb friendly as ever, with the right indexing sites. Some, but not all, require a small one time donation (big deal). It's great for fast downloads on HD stuff, but one would be wise to get a VPN service for use with torrents to "fill in the gaps"

[piercerseth]

Tldr

Eternal September (Reprise).

[reallysalt]

now that newzbin is gone it isnt the same. there isnt any club to fill the void. you end up getting stung more often with crap passworded downloads.

I guess everyone is doing what i'm doing and going torrent with vpn because torrents have lots of user input and you know they're good downloads.

[k2bug]

now that newzbin is gone it isnt the same. there isnt any club to fill the void. you end up getting stung more often with crap passworded downloads.

I guess everyone is doing what i'm doing and going torrent with vpn because torrents have lots of user input and you know they're good downloads.

Here lies the problem. People think and thought matrix and newzbin were the be all and end all for years but all it did was bring unwanted attention especially around the huge income both sites made then later denied.

There was and still is a few good sites that run along the big ones back then and now. With that said there is no longer one or two dominate sites anymore. If your getting stung by passwords then your in the wrong place. As in my last post stay away from the majority of the newznab clones and if you go forum based which there is only about4 or 5 credible ones and even in those small numbers 1 or 2 make outrages claims. For me when i join any site i judge it on how it is setup i.e is it pushed in your face at every angle to donate or restrictive sections again used to get into your wallet. You will find the more subtle sites that has no in your face fee's are sometimes the best but not always.

Look and you will find the very very few good sites out there. Just don't go believing the hype the pile on and stick around use the site for a short while see how its run then make an informed choice were is good and bad.

[reallysalt]

now that newzbin is gone it isnt the same. there isnt any club to fill the void. you end up getting stung more often with crap passworded downloads.

I guess everyone is doing what i'm doing and going torrent with vpn because torrents have lots of user input and you know they're good downloads.

Here lies the problem. People think and thought matrix and newzbin were the be all and end all for years but all it did was bring unwanted attention especially around the huge income both sites made then later denied.

There was and still is a few good sites that run along the big ones back then and now. With that said there is no longer one or two dominate sites anymore. If your getting stung by passwords then your in the wrong place. As in my last post stay away from the majority of the newznab clones and if you go forum based which there is only about4 or 5 credible ones and even in those small numbers 1 or 2 make outrages claims. For me when i join any site i judge it on how it is setup i.e is it pushed in your face at every angle to donate or restrictive sections again used to get into your wallet. You will find the more subtle sites that has no in your face fee's are sometimes the best but not always.

Look and you will find the very very few good sites out there. Just don't go believing the hype the pile on and stick around use the site for a short while see how its run then make an informed choice were is good and bad.

I tried looking all over for such a site after newzbin went down, alas. The free sites were all the same; automated listings based on binsearch with very little to no user input. There were a few invite-only sites i wanted to try but couldn't get one. I asked in here repeatedly in the appropriate section but just gave up after a while.

Can you recommend one of these good sites?

[justlooking]

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Can you recommend one of these good sites?

NZBGrabit appears to be open now. https://www.nzbgrabit.co.uk/register.php

[k2bug]

I can't point you in any direction as last time i did this members from the above mentioned site tried to rip me a new one for having an opinion so i stay silent now and let people find out themselves. Just watch for sites baring false gifts and restrictions and exaggerated claims of expenses.

Keep you coin in your pocket and any site worth its salt will not harass you or beg you via email. Spend time to get to know a site or sites before jumping in at there requests for "cash".

[reallysalt]

I can't point you in any direction as last time i did this members from the above mentioned site tried to rip me a new one for having an opinion so i stay silent now and let people find out themselves. Just watch for sites baring false gifts and restrictions and exaggerated claims of expenses.

Keep you coin in your pocket and any site worth its salt will not harass you or beg you via email. Spend time to get to know a site or sites before jumping in at there requests for "cash".

I will gladly accept a pm and i promise I won't rip you a new one.