Will tracker "staffs" ever grow up? I don't think so.

**absent_today** · 07-26-2013, 01:35 AM

I'm from India and have never being banned once on any trackers my account was disabled on Science HD for inactivity so i went to there IRC and the admin there was ready to enable it but i said no since i was then moved to BTN and admin was all good that said not to enable it again just to die again.

**shipwreck** · 07-26-2013, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by IdolEyes787

Originally Posted by shipwreck

Not wanting traders on your site is sound and absolutely legitimate, not least of all for security reasons.

I would be fascinated to know how stopping an account from passing from one anonymous person to another aids in security.

Because trading inevitably implies a loss of control over who joins your site. This is particularly important to sites that run a tight ship on membership, meticulously screening who joins their site and how.

Besides, not wanting to see the privilege of membership traded like a commodity is a legitimate concern also. And a pretty substantial part of the more notorious trader folk tends to cheat and be up to all kinds of undesirable behaviour, the most obvious being the total disrespect for the rules of the trackers they join.

A · 07-26-2013, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by shipwreck

Originally Posted by IdolEyes787

I would be fascinated to know how stopping an account from passing from one anonymous person to another aids in security.

Because trading inevitably implies a loss of control over who joins your site.

I'll play the Devil's advocate here. So, Inviting someone from the internet on the basis of the nickname one uses helps "control" who joins the site? Take the case of a trader with lots of time to burn and lots of nicknames, how do you stop such people? In essence, IMO, all these rules do nothing to deter traders. Just like all the NSA surveillance can't stop the real bad guys. They just play the game better than the next guy who just wants to ~~fap to~~ watch some American porno tv series.

Now, for arguments sake, lets say I am a trader. Why the FUCK would I want my account back. Can't I trade my way back in? Why the FUCK would I use the same email-ID and nickname on every FUCKING tracker? That brings us to two conclusions:
1. I am trader who is really bad at the trading game. OR,
2. All these so called "staffs" can't do basic arithmetic (like, what is 2+2?) if their life depended on it; and their massive ego to top it all. ugh.

**shipwreck** · 07-26-2013, 09:30 AM

On trackers that have a strict membership policy, it's the tracker staff themselves who send out invites. For the sake of the tracker, you'd expect them to have more substantial criteria than just the nickname of the user. Of course you can't stop every trader from joining, but you can make their life more difficult and hence keep out a good percentage of the less sophisticated ones. That's good enough for most trackers I assume.

In your particular case, I have a feeling that it's your ...associates that tend to make life difficult for you. Most if not all trackers tend to not just ban traders, but those who have been invited by traders, too. It's not just important who you invite, but by whom you get invited yourself.

A · 07-26-2013, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by shipwreck

On trackers that have a strict membership policy, it's the tracker staff themselves who send out invites. For the sake of the tracker, you'd expect them to have more substantial criteria than just the nickname of the user.

Like what? Someone on the internet is an IP address, the nickname(s) he chooses to reveal, and the email-ID associated with the tracker. There is nothing a "staff" can do that a normal inviter cannot do.

Originally Posted by shipwreck

Of course you can't stop every trader from joining, but you can make their life more difficult and hence keep out a good percentage of the less sophisticated ones. That's good enough for most trackers I assume.

My point being, it doesn't matter to them how "hard" it gets.

Originally Posted by shipwreck

In your particular case, I have a feeling that it's your ...associates that tend to make life difficult for you. Most if not all trackers tend to not just ban traders, but those who have been invited by traders, too. It's not just important who you invite, but by whom you get invited yourself.

PTP is the only tracker I joined and can't remember who I got the invite from; it was one of my first trackers. On the majority of other trackers, I got the invite from "staffs". That said, if you read the BitmeTV IRC logs I posted, you'll know the confusion that causes this BS, which happened 3 years back, and how some trigger happy jackass probably "blacklisted" my nick in some "database" these private tracker circlejerks keep and then forgot to "whitelist" it. And then, all the monkeys follow suit.