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    I am always outraged by the politics of tying child pornography to ANY need to monitor file transfers. Cheap fucking, low-life trick. No kind way to censor that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by megabyteme View Post
    I am always outraged by the politics of tying child pornography to ANY need to monitor file transfers. Cheap fucking, low-life trick. No kind way to censor that.
    Why won't you think of the children? Seriously though, trotting out the appeal to emotion fallacy is de rigeur. Cuomo did something similiar when he was NY AG a few years regarding usenet iirc. Can't spell panopticon without 'c' & 'p.'

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    they are trying so many things, but it wont stop torrenting

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    at&t just made my personal boycott list...which i can start once my cell contract ends..lol

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    Considering that images are nothing more than a sequence of pixels, how could an algorithm discriminate between a family photo of mum, dad, brother and little sister on a beach somewhere, and little sister being used for child pornography purposes?

    In fact, how could an algorithm determine the difference between a home movie file you have uploaded, and a blockbuster?

    It cannot. If it could, we would already have robots walking the streets with the ability to reason.

    This is nothing more than Public Relations designed to scare people into thinking they have something special that they can use to detect this material. The only way to detect this material is for someone, a human, to scan it and make a reasoned judgement.

    Google made the same statement about their Streetview software, stating that it automatically blanks out faces and registration plates of vehicles it photographs. It doesn't. It is done by a human. If you are observant, you will notice lots of registration plates that are legible, because someone in their haste missed them. Also, many of the faces on Streetview aren't blanked out because, again, a human missed them.

    Some things cannot be left to a computer algorithm, because no algorithm can match the mind of a reasoned human, but then again, only a human could miss the obvious.

    So, to summarise, this is nothing more than scare tactics to make the gullible think that they have some tool to detect transgressions on the internet. They don't. They are using our fear of getting caught against us, to frighten us into submission. If they genuinely had such a tool, they wouldn't need to announce it. They would simply trap those abusing the rules and prosecute them, extorting millions in the process.

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    How can an algorithm accurately detect child porn? Are people who download midget porn going get court letters soon? lol

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    Great, now for some reason I want to see midget porn lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by duke0102 View Post
    How can an algorithm accurately detect child porn? Are people who download midget porn going get court letters soon? lol
    This is exactly the point - it's not possible! So all the things they do will have no success.

    Alle these companies are not awared of child porn or other illegal content, they just wish to track people who download copyrighted content. To all, use VPN while downloading from torrents. In this way you stay safe!
    Last edited by torrentus; 08-26-2013 at 10:19 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFoX View Post
    Considering that images are nothing more than a sequence of pixels, how could an algorithm discriminate between a family photo of mum, dad, brother and little sister on a beach somewhere, and little sister being used for child pornography purposes?

    In fact, how could an algorithm determine the difference between a home movie file you have uploaded, and a blockbuster?

    It cannot. If it could, we would already have robots walking the streets with the ability to reason.

    This is nothing more than Public Relations designed to scare people into thinking they have something special that they can use to detect this material. The only way to detect this material is for someone, a human, to scan it and make a reasoned judgement.

    Google made the same statement about their Streetview software, stating that it automatically blanks out faces and registration plates of vehicles it photographs. It doesn't. It is done by a human. If you are observant, you will notice lots of registration plates that are legible, because someone in their haste missed them. Also, many of the faces on Streetview aren't blanked out because, again, a human missed them.

    Some things cannot be left to a computer algorithm, because no algorithm can match the mind of a reasoned human, but then again, only a human could miss the obvious.

    So, to summarise, this is nothing more than scare tactics to make the gullible think that they have some tool to detect transgressions on the internet. They don't. They are using our fear of getting caught against us, to frighten us into submission. If they genuinely had such a tool, they wouldn't need to announce it. They would simply trap those abusing the rules and prosecute them, extorting millions in the process.
    Verizon already does this. It only works with known images, meaning they have people on payroll viewing and archiving child porn to a corporate database.

    http://arstechnica.com/information-t...-in-its-cloud/

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