Usenet SSL + VPN

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well yes SSL is broken for usenet in a way because no clients actually check the certificate, yes everyone keeps logs otherwise their network will be abused until it is unusable.

Does it matter? No, unless you are uploading copies of technical books sent to you for a review.

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Once again, your ignorance of basic USA laws and regulations are breathtaking. So, you've never heard of or seen a thing called a NSL? (National Security Letter, primary part of the Patriot Act). Virtually every telecom provider in the US has been operating under the provisions of this act for close to 10 years now, REQUIRES that logs be keep of every 'transaction' that occurs over their system(s). If you don't, you will get forced out of business, and many have been.

Get your head out of your behind and get real.

Then why don't Usenet service providers keep track of downloads? Many have an American presence. There is little point in trying to reason with your tinfoil hard hat. They have bigger fish to fry than trying to bust some guy downloading a TV show.

I asked you about the requirements of VPNs. Most are not located in the states and I've yet to read a specific law that requires them to log. Are you saying that a VPN in Switzerland is required to follow US Patriot Act laws? LOL

I actually did hear from a lawyer a while ago that they are required to log traffic. Obviously different countries have different laws, and the laws aren't always followed, but the US does have treaties with other countries. I believe the Secret Service/FBI also have offices in just about every country to help making solving crimes in the US easier.