New build and the inevitable problems

[IdolEyes787]

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Nope, I haven't. Mainly because basically every reputable cooling review I've read points toward the fact that you can get better, quieter performance for cheaper from an air cooler than from these prebuilt, low end water coolers.

Everyone told the Wright brothers that weird contraption would never fly.
I think we can both agree that it's a good thing that they listened to the "experts".

[Rart]

Not the same thing. That was a largely speculative assumption on something that was new, untested, and unknown at the time.

All I'm referring to are boring, controlled, measured, and repeatable data points.

If Artemis turns out to be the next Wright Brothers of computing though, I stand corrected.

[IdolEyes787]

It's exactly the same thing as I was putting you in the place of the ( in most cases merely) regurgitating naysayers and Art in the place of someone with actual hands-on experience.

[mjmacky]

I would prefer all of my air coolers to be shaped like ninja shuriken. That way, they appear dangerous and cool. Get it? It's cooler.

[Rart]

It's exactly the same thing as I was putting you in the place of the ( in most cases merely) regurgitating naysayers and Art in the place of someone with actual hands-on experience.

Except they aren't simply "naysayers" doubting something that's never been done like with the Wright Brothers. The people writing these articles have more "hands on experience" then Artemis and me combined, and have the unique place of being able to test a plethora of air and water coolers, under controlled conditions rather than through anecdotal evidence of a couple of builds.

And while I haven't specifically used a closed water loop cooler, nor has Artemis really had experience with the well recieved air coolers in order to make a valid comparison. A Cooler Master V8 thats more concerned with colored LEDs than efficient cooling doesn't count.

Regardless of my insistence on continuing this debate with Artemis though, in the grand scheme of things whatever cooler you get really won't make a huge difference, especially if you don't plan on overclocking (which you have yet to mention whether you want to or not). Heck, even the stock cooler would be perfectly sufficient if you don't want to overclock.

[IdolEyes787]

I would prefer all of my air coolers to be shaped like ninja shuriken. That way, they appear dangerous and cool. Get it? It's cooler.

Regardless of my insistence on continuing this debate with Artemis though, in the grand scheme of things whatever cooler you get really won't make a huge difference, especially if you don't plan on overclocking (which you have yet to mention whether you want to or not). Heck, even the stock cooler would be perfectly sufficient if you don't want to overclock.

Fuck logic directly in the ear,I'm going with this http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Deepcool/Assassin/

It's not just an "assassin" but it's a freaking "storm assassin" which is obviously way better in the same way that super models are better than run of the mill models because some ghey guy decided to simply add the super.

Problem one solved now I just need to buy a good clock so I can over it.

Except they aren't simply "naysayers"

It was an Art horse monger joke but I think anyone that can still hear above 17kHz lacks the physical ability to get it.

[Rart]

It was an Art horse monger joke but I think anyone that can still hear above 17kHz lacks the physical ability to get it.

Mmmmmm nope. Guess I'm not cultured enough . Maybe when I'm graying and decrepit like you your humor will grow on me.

[IdolEyes787]

If I was stupid or vain enough to post a picture on the interweb you'd be eating your words right about now.

OK I'm vain enough,just marginally not that stupid.

[A]

If you have the money there is a big performance advantage to be had in 32GB of (fast) RAM plus an SSD, the speed difference on the same system over 16GB with this upgrade is noticeable.

I would like the technical reasoning behind this. How would there be a noticeable difference when most of the time (if ever, as far as I can see) 16GB, yet alone the 32GB, would not be fully put to use?

I am not making an argument here, Art, but hope to learn something.

Idoleyes' use case involves playing games (even though I find it hard to visualize him playing games). All modern games tries to load as much assets it can into RAM (for faster (pre-)rendering from/to GPU, computations from/to CPU and gameplay), so more RAM is always good. If it can't stuff the RAM with everything, it offloads not so immediate stuff into harddisk, in which case an SSD helps.

[Artemis]

Regardless of my insistence on continuing this debate with Artemis though, in the grand scheme of things whatever cooler you get really won't make a huge difference, especially if you don't plan on overclocking (which you have yet to mention whether you want to or not). Heck, even the stock cooler would be perfectly sufficient if you don't want to overclock.

Fuck logic directly in the ear,I'm going with this http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Deepcool/Assassin/

It's not just an "assassin" but it's a freaking "storm assassin" which is obviously way better in the same way that super models are better than run of the mill models because some ghey guy decided to simply add the super.

Problem one solved now I just need to buy a good clock so I can over it.

Except they aren't simply "naysayers"

It was an Art horse monger joke but I think anyone that can still hear above 17kHz lacks the physical ability to get it.

If you read back you will see that I recently installed a Deep Cool Assassin into a machine, it is even more gigantic in person, and if I threw it at you it would hurt alot, considering it weighs in at a tender 1.25 KG, since it was mounted in a standard not a gaming case there was very little room left over and in fact I had to remove a chassis fan to get the beast to shoehorn in.


Now back to Rart, I notice you are quoting 'several coolers' throughout your replies, you have yet to mention a single one, just your website reviews so I was actually curious about your own PC it's specs please, and the steps you have taken to mod it to become a silent PC. Also any 'anecdotal' information from other custom builds you have spec'ed or built would help.

I'll even go first if you like, the thread for the X79 build I am discussing survived the board's bad aids last year it can be found here:
https://filesharingtalk.com/threads/4...f-Watercooling


The reason why I ask this is that this is a forum, we discuss things here and people put up 'anecdotal' experience if it is relevant as part of the discussion, otherwise someone would ask a question and whoever was first off the mark with a handy review would post it and that would be that. You must also remember that many websites put up paid for advertising results first including your favourite search engine, so it is always wise to get differing opinions, that is also the purpose of a discussion, and you have not yet given any other information apart from parroting a website.