'Scene' to me is 'Stupid'. Like I said, I guess it fills some sort of niche audience out there.

8000kb/s IS SD/DVD,even if stretched to 720. I guess, again, that's okay if you're that niche audience.

When bitrates start getting below 20,000kb/s, I get worried. Of course, there are movies that are, from the studios, below that, but not that many, or are VC-1 encoded (most studios have abandoned it for Mpeg4-AVC, just like they've given up mostly on Dolby TrueHD sound for DTS-HD/MA).

When I first started out on the hidef stuff (a fair amount I still have stored in my array), it showed it's lack of resolution, even on my old 30" display. Now that my main is 4 times that (in area), it looks pretty sad. Really was a waste of time d/l'ing any of it.