anybody else feel like the arse is falling out of the nzb download world?

[borge]

Streaming for the win.

[pdog417]

Agreed..baronkarza bandwith is already an issue. You cant really blame the ISP's all their bandwidth is consumed but they make no profit..

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-576...ernet-traffic/

[stinkyplant]

Streaming is great when you have low or average bandwidth. 4+ hours to download or start streaming within a few minutes.

[theemaster]

No such thing as a kill button. That would make it pretty easy for 1 provider to shut several down at once, it would be like the cold war again but for usenet.

Umm, yah of course there's a kill button several..

shall we say the fbi vs. kimdotcom
how about not paying your bandwidth/server/power bill? (there's a kill button)
and these programs/scripts designed to delete usenet data for the company through nzb's there's a kill button (what if it's badly coded..? maybe it can wipe a entire server)
and the biggest kill button of all money.. either DMCA money with gov help.. or lowered content on premium servers (meaning users don't pay)

RIP 2017 usenet (money grew thee huge.. but lack of money made you deader than a doornail!)

yah, I agree usenet has many server providers.. but so what?

[freelance86]

No such thing as a kill button. That would make it pretty easy for 1 provider to shut several down at once, it would be like the cold war again but for usenet.

Umm, yah of course there's a kill button several..

shall we say the fbi vs. kimdotcom
how about not paying your bandwidth/server/power bill? (there's a kill button)
and these programs/scripts designed to delete usenet data for the company through nzb's there's a kill button (what if it's badly coded..? maybe it can wipe a entire server)
and the biggest kill button of all money.. either DMCA money with gov help.. or lowered content on premium servers (meaning users don't pay)

RIP 2017 usenet (money grew thee huge.. but lack of money made you deader than a doornail!)

yah, I agree usenet has many server providers.. but so what?

they were talking about a kill button whereas 1 provider could use it and it would remove it from EVERY usenet providers servers, ofcoarse each individual provider can remove stuff from their own servers but not others.

i do wonder however if the article is even removed from the database or if the servers that talk to the database are just told to ignore those request. eg, i tried downloading batman begins a tonne of times and every nzb was incomplete, however on new years day 2014 i tried 2 different nzbs for the same movie and both were 100% complete! i tried both again a few hours later and behold it was missing a shit tonne of article and incomplete (as it was every other time i tried), so explain how that could happen if usenet providers actually deleted the article content?

[Beck38]

Lots of BS in this thread; any look at traffic analysis sites would show folks that overall traffic on usenet has continued it's upward trend over the last few years. The hyper-squealing from the pro-wrestling crowd over the past year, due to a handful of DMCA takedowns was so overblown as to be totally ridiculous.

The amount of posts with scrambled file-names has exploded, but non-pro-wrestling tv captures have continued totally unabated, although the large scale movie postings have seemed to be both scrambled names with (or without) rar encryption. I for one, continue posting at at rate of some 3TB+ month with NO takedowns over more than a decade with NO obfuscation until the last couple of years, and only minimal since (I not stupid, simply require less than what a 5th grader could figure out on a bad day).

Selling bandwidth to end users, btw, is a license to print money. ISP's in the US buy bandwidth at 1 cent and sell for 1 dollar, or even worse. When they do get ANY competition, they squeal like stuck pigs, and go running to the politicians (or the courts, equally easy to buy off) for protection.

[capetocuba]

It's easier and much cheaper in South Africa to download and use a media player. Our internet is fragile here

[chakara]

I not stupid, simply require less than what a 5th grader could figure out on a bad day

I'm pretty sure you're wrong about that. The scheme you use to scramble names may look logical and eays to your mind but totally illogical to most people. And it's not a question of intelligence ...

I came across a post where the name was scrambled by removing the vowels. Once you look at it you think "yeah, pretty logic". But that's hindsight : before coming across this post I would never have thought about that. Never.

Most scrambled posts are just random from what I can tell anayway.

[dave_wilson]

I not stupid, simply require less than what a 5th grader could figure out on a bad day

I'm pretty sure you're wrong about that. The scheme you use to scramble names may look logical and eays to your mind but totally illogical to most people. And it's not a question of intelligence ...

I came across a post where the name was scrambled by removing the vowels. Once you look at it you think "yeah, pretty logic". But that's hindsight : before coming across this post I would never have thought about that. Never.

Most scrambled posts are just random from what I can tell anayway.

And it defeats the purpose. Its not open anymore and quite honestly whats to stop the providers from looking at scrambled stuff and saying "spam" and removing the posts altogether.

[Beck38]

I'm pretty sure you're wrong about that. The scheme you use to scramble names may look logical and eays to your mind but totally illogical to most people. And it's not a question of intelligence ...

I came across a post where the name was scrambled by removing the vowels. Once you look at it you think "yeah, pretty logic". But that's hindsight : before coming across this post I would never have thought about that. Never.

Most scrambled posts are just random from what I can tell anayway.

And it defeats the purpose. Its not open anymore and quite honestly whats to stop the providers from looking at scrambled stuff and saying "spam" and removing the posts altogether.

You are both talking out of your backside, not knowing what 'scheme' I (and many others) employ. First, the actual name may 'look' scrambled, but simply running it through 'the google' revels the actual name. No provider has ever, over the past 30+ years, removed anything simply because it 'looked' scrambled; if they did, they would be out of business in pretty short order.

If you can't figure out such simple techniques as removing vowels, reversing the letter combination, then I'd have to say you never took 5th grade math or history. Yes, a lot of scrambled names are complete nonsense, and require pay-walled web sites to decode (and are usually pro-wresting anyway) but a lot aren't. If you can't be bothered to run them by 'the google' then you're lost anyway, I hope your ATM card code isn't '1-2-3-4'.