Hey can anyone tell me if a server ,say from Astraweb would have the same content on US SSL server vs US server with no ssl or EU SSL vs EU no SSL.
Thanks,
Hey can anyone tell me if a server ,say from Astraweb would have the same content on US SSL server vs US server with no ssl or EU SSL vs EU no SSL.
Thanks,
usually not, but astraweb is known for mess ups like that so it might be that some servers have stuff that didn't propagate
'SSL' is the TRANSMISSION link between the usenet plant and your newsreader, NOT 'different plants' or some such nonsense.Originally Posted by vigor5000
You're connecting to the SAME PLANT, in this case, either the US (SSL or not) or the EU (SSL or not). Same plant (EU or US).
It's a good thing to set your newsreader up so that the first secondary server is the OPPOSITE of your main, whatever service you are using.
EXAMPLE: If Astra/US is your primary, put Astra/EU as your secondary. If your Primary is EU, then secondary should be US
Same if you use Giganews, Usenet-News, or any other service that has 'twin' setups on opposite sides of the 'pond'.
Then for a third service (like Blocknews), put it in a third. And so on.
Anybody who is telling you these are different PLANTS (SSL or not) is feeding you pure NONSENSE.
Thank you both for your responses.I figured it was the same server just different connection.What about that third astraweb server is it a mix of the us and eu?
Retired
The Singapore server? That's part of the EU farm. Although the ip doesn't seem to route to SE Asia anymore, but rather to their NL datacenter.
im not sure its the one that doesnt have us or eu in it.
Most 'twin' setups (like Astraweb) have a 'third' connection setup that is usually referred to as a 'general' server (that's what Astra calls it). If you use this 'general' address, it 'attempts' to route you to, supposedly, the closest (by one would guess, a reverse trace-route setup) the closest plant.
Giganews, for instance, only uses one setting (news.giganews.com) and tries to do everything 'automated'. Right. Every once in a while I'll catch their routing scheme sending me to the EU server instead of the US one which is far closer by about 9000 miles or so) but then again, if they are doing heavy maintenance on one or the other, it MAY come in handy. But I've never seen that effect.
Most everyone 'large' has US and EU plants. Giganews I believe is running a plant either in Hong Kong or somewhere in the far east.
I used to know the direct routing to it but it's lost in my poor memory (several years ago).
Beck38, time to lay off from the whoopie-whoopie for a while
Code:host eu.news.astraweb.com eu.news.astraweb.com has address 193.202.122.58 eu.news.astraweb.com has address 193.202.122.59 eu.news.astraweb.com has address 193.202.122.67 eu.news.astraweb.com has address 193.202.122.122 eu.news.astraweb.com has address 193.202.122.153 eu.news.astraweb.com has address 91.208.207.39 eu.news.astraweb.com has address 193.202.122.56 eu.news.astraweb.com has address 193.202.122.57Code:host ssl-eu.astraweb.com ssl-eu.astraweb.com has address 193.202.122.150 ssl-eu.astraweb.com has address 193.202.122.164 ssl-eu.astraweb.com has address 91.208.207.42 ssl-eu.astraweb.com has address 91.208.207.152 ssl-eu.astraweb.com has address 193.202.122.64 ssl-eu.astraweb.com has address 193.202.122.68 ssl-eu.astraweb.com has address 193.202.122.117 ssl-eu.astraweb.com has address 193.202.122.129Code:host us.news.astraweb.com us.news.astraweb.com has address 207.246.207.164 us.news.astraweb.com has address 216.151.153.16 us.news.astraweb.com has address 216.151.153.41 us.news.astraweb.com has address 216.151.153.59 us.news.astraweb.com has address 8.17.249.100 us.news.astraweb.com has address 207.246.207.16 us.news.astraweb.com has address 207.246.207.120 us.news.astraweb.com has address 207.246.207.122Code:host ssl-us.astraweb.com ssl-us.astraweb.com has address 216.151.153.76 ssl-us.astraweb.com has address 216.151.153.126 ssl-us.astraweb.com has address 8.17.249.103 ssl-us.astraweb.com has address 207.246.207.123 ssl-us.astraweb.com has address 207.246.207.125 ssl-us.astraweb.com has address 207.246.207.126 ssl-us.astraweb.com has address 207.246.207.130 ssl-us.astraweb.com has address 207.246.207.139Code:host news.astraweb.com news.astraweb.com has address 91.208.207.171 news.astraweb.com has address 193.202.122.55 news.astraweb.com has address 193.202.122.56 news.astraweb.com has address 193.202.122.58 news.astraweb.com has address 91.208.207.37 news.astraweb.com has address 91.208.207.55 news.astraweb.com has address 91.208.207.56 news.astraweb.com has address 91.208.207.57Code:host news.internode.on.net news.internode.on.net has address 216.151.153.22 news.internode.on.net has address 216.151.153.65 news.internode.on.net has address 216.151.153.138 news.internode.on.net has address 207.246.207.22
ALL different NOT same
@2501: Nothing you have listed here contradicts what Beck38 has said.
EU Range: 193.202.122.*, 91.208.207.*
US Range: 216.151.153.*, 207.246.207.*, 8.17.249.*
As Beck38 said, when you use the "general" servers, you are either given the US or EU range, based on which farm you are closest to (using a geo db).
You need to take a comprehensive course in 'the internet' or networks in general (or go re-read good on-line usenet explanations like on Slyck.com or on Wikipedia).
Just because the url 'routes' to a different bank of 'front end' machines, means (virtually) nothing. Of course, if the provider out-sources (gee, like Astraweb!) their SSL to a third party (in this case, go-daddy.com of all people) then the setup for providing the SSL has to run on slightly different h/w and s/w than the non-ssl front end.
But it all, in either case, connects to EXACTLY the same bulk array.
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