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[IdolEyes787]

Ed Spielman is the creator of the 'Kung Fu' series. Any claims to the contrary are incorrect, and an injustice. As a teenager, Mr. Spielman worked as a Page at ABC-TV in New York. He discovered the secret arts of kung-fu in the early 1960s, and he studied Mandarin Chinese in College at night. He spent years doing his research in New York's Chinatown and elsewhere unearthing this heretofore secret knowledge. At that time, kung-fu was not known in the Western world and was denied to non-Chinese. It was taught by master/student relationships and within families. It was never revealed to non-Chinese. But, Spielman pressed on.
By the mid-1960s, Ed had acquired a depth of information, and wrote a forty-four-page treatment for film, TV and publishing titled, 'Kung Fu: The Way of the Tiger, The Sign of the Dragon.' He spent the next few years trying to move it forward to film or television. In 1969, he was introduced to young agent Peter Lampack at the William Morris Agency in New York. Lampack liked the material and made a deal with Warner's executive Bennett Sims in New York.
In February of 1970, Lampack bartered a deal for Spielman and his friend and collaborator, Howard Friedlander, to write a theatrical motion picture screenplay from Spielman's original story. All of this occurred in New York.
At the end of this development, Warner Bros. chose not to make the theatrical film. But, studio executive Harvey Frand had faith in the project, and took it to ABC, which by that time, had introduced a pioneering 'Movie of The Week' format.
The Spielman/Friedlander script was pared down for budget, produced and shown on ABC, February 22, 1972. It was an immediate hit. The iconic 'Kung Fu' monthly-then-weekly series followed...
Undoubtedly, Bruce Lee had his own ideas and aspirations, but that has nothing to do with Ed Spielman's ground-breaking and original work. The Writers Guild of America West awarded sole credit to Ed Spielman as the creator of 'Kung Fu'... And no allegation of Bruce Lee's having to do with the creation of 'Kung Fu' appeared in public until 'The Bruce Lee Story' (1993) in which the allegation was made.
Ed Spielman told me specifically: 'In 1993, I was preparing a major law suit against Universal, DeLaurentis Productions and all of those who were responsible for the false allegations in 'The Bruce Lee Story' to deprive me of the authorship of my work and defame me. But, Bruce Lee died in 1973 and his son Brandon also tragically died in 1993. A lawsuit by me would have fallen on Bruce Lee's widow, Linda. She had lost enough. I didn't think she would have survived those years in court. I thought about it...then told the lawyers to forget about it. The documents speak for themselves for anyone who cares to look...I was greatly disappointed that Bruce Lee did not appear as a principal in the 'Kung Fu' series. But he had nothing to do with its creation. My work and the 'Kung Fu' project was on the East Coast; his was on the West Coast. My work predated his by years. The complete story and characters were registered in the mid-1960s. The documents and contracts prove that.

Not saying that Bruce Lee wouldn't have been more entertaining in the role and that some level of racism wasn't involved in the casting but clearly the show" needed a serene person, and Carradine was more appropriate for the role" holds true or else for better or worse wind up with you have something entirely different than Kung Fu.

[ckrit]

Ed Spielman is the creator of the 'Kung Fu' series. Any claims to the contrary are incorrect, and an injustice. As a teenager, Mr. Spielman worked as a Page at ABC-TV in New York. He discovered the secret arts of kung-fu in the early 1960s, and he studied Mandarin Chinese in College at night. He spent years doing his research in New York's Chinatown and elsewhere unearthing this heretofore secret knowledge. At that time, kung-fu was not known in the Western world and was denied to non-Chinese. It was taught by master/student relationships and within families. It was never revealed to non-Chinese. But, Spielman pressed on.
By the mid-1960s, Ed had acquired a depth of information, and wrote a forty-four-page treatment for film, TV and publishing titled, 'Kung Fu: The Way of the Tiger, The Sign of the Dragon.' He spent the next few years trying to move it forward to film or television. In 1969, he was introduced to young agent Peter Lampack at the William Morris Agency in New York. Lampack liked the material and made a deal with Warner's executive Bennett Sims in New York.
In February of 1970, Lampack bartered a deal for Spielman and his friend and collaborator, Howard Friedlander, to write a theatrical motion picture screenplay from Spielman's original story. All of this occurred in New York.
At the end of this development, Warner Bros. chose not to make the theatrical film. But, studio executive Harvey Frand had faith in the project, and took it to ABC, which by that time, had introduced a pioneering 'Movie of The Week' format.
The Spielman/Friedlander script was pared down for budget, produced and shown on ABC, February 22, 1972. It was an immediate hit. The iconic 'Kung Fu' monthly-then-weekly series followed...
Undoubtedly, Bruce Lee had his own ideas and aspirations, but that has nothing to do with Ed Spielman's ground-breaking and original work. The Writers Guild of America West awarded sole credit to Ed Spielman as the creator of 'Kung Fu'... And no allegation of Bruce Lee's having to do with the creation of 'Kung Fu' appeared in public until 'The Bruce Lee Story' (1993) in which the allegation was made.
Ed Spielman told me specifically: 'In 1993, I was preparing a major law suit against Universal, DeLaurentis Productions and all of those who were responsible for the false allegations in 'The Bruce Lee Story' to deprive me of the authorship of my work and defame me. But, Bruce Lee died in 1973 and his son Brandon also tragically died in 1993. A lawsuit by me would have fallen on Bruce Lee's widow, Linda. She had lost enough. I didn't think she would have survived those years in court. I thought about it...then told the lawyers to forget about it. The documents speak for themselves for anyone who cares to look...I was greatly disappointed that Bruce Lee did not appear as a principal in the 'Kung Fu' series. But he had nothing to do with its creation. My work and the 'Kung Fu' project was on the East Coast; his was on the West Coast. My work predated his by years. The complete story and characters were registered in the mid-1960s. The documents and contracts prove that.

Not saying that Bruce Lee wouldn't have been more entertaining in the role and that some level of racism wasn't involved in the casting but clearly the show" needed a serene person, and Carradine was more appropriate for the role" holds true or else for better or worse wind up with you have something entirely different than Kung Fu.

That's interesting.

On the other hand you have Linda Lee saying it was Bruce Lee's idea, and Bruce Lee himself going onto some talkshow at least a year IIRC before the show aired and talking about a show he called "Warriors", about a martial artist in the old west.

Like I said, I think I would have preferred a more bombastic Lee in the main role, and yeah, it would have been a very different show indeed.

[shaina]

Except that Kung Fu was as much about juxtapositioning Shaolin monk Caine's tranquility against the violence and I'm not getting much tranquility from Bruce Lee.

Be that as it may, captain dense almost has a point.

I mean, it was Bruce Lee's idea to begin with, which the company stole from him.

Carradine probably didn't know until later.

What the story was about, I'd say, would thus be up to Lee. TBH, I think I'd have preferred Lee in the role. I saw old reruns as a kid, and found Carradine both boring and really out of place.

Even if Bruce made some changes in the story line. Unless he wore his kato mask , in that era , he never would have been accepted for a prime time show . And no producer could have got the funding to make it. It was a white mans world then.

If the rest of the world thought it was a boring show the 62 episodes would have been cut off at 15.

I think that is dense enough explanation for 2nd class lieutenant to understand

[ckrit]

The thing about personal preference, is that it is personal preference. Captain.

[IdolEyes787]

On the other hand you have Linda Lee saying it was Bruce Lee's idea, and Bruce Lee himself going onto some talkshow at least a year IIRC before the show aired and talking about a show he called "Warriors", about a martial artist in the old west.

I have no reason to doubt any of that. The thing is though if you factor in what was happening at the time,it being both the heyday of Martial Arts movies and yet a time when Westerns still held a wide appeal,is it not plausible,even likely that more than one person thought of combining the two?

Personally,not being a patent attorney or someone with something to gain, and as we're not talking Harper Lee here I'm going with the "merely a coincidence".

Of course I could be wrong and when go to register what I think is an incredibly witty and mindblowingly unique username someplace and find that someone's already used it at least now I'll know they stole it.

[IdolEyes787]

Like I said, I think I would have preferred a more bombastic Lee in the main role, and yeah, it would have been a very different show indeed.

As what people remember about the show is basically none of the actual fighting but instead "Snatch the pebble from my hand,Grasshopper" then, yeah.

[IdolEyes787]

On the other hand I don't see Lee being a very good "Bill".

[shaina]

The thing about personal preference, is that it is personal preference. Captain.

It is true Lieutenant... I really not fond of Reality shows , and who is voting or filling out the surveys ( never seen or received one) to keep them on for years .

I had this assumption that where they do pick the area for voting , they were pumping something In the drinking water to brainwash them.

[shaina]

On the other hand I don't see Lee being a very good "Bill".

What do you mean?? Bruce would have made a great Bill , Bruce's wife kind of looks like Uma Thurman.
And Bruce and Linda always looked great in photos together. The role of Bill will be played by Bruce "Jeet Kune Do" Lee , I like it!!

[megabyteme]

On the other hand I don't see Lee being a very good "Bill".

However, being Asian, he would have been a natural at running people over in Deathrace.