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    Quote Originally Posted by IdolEyes787 View Post
    Sanders has also actually held a job other than rich child, lawyer or boss of me so I assume he would be a little more sympathetic to the problems that most of society has to regularly deal with.
    The problem is his backers, and trying to fix his voters problems is going to make the whole world worse, and cause more problems around the world including the immigration that will end up in the US.

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    For me, Sanders is the only good person running- as in I believe he is acting in good faith. Think what you will about socialism, I would *much* rather have a good man be unsuccessful at his (flawed) plan than have a malicious man/woman succeed in a destructive one.
    Hillary and Trump are simply *ugly* at their cores.
    Was this said to bait me Meg??

    I think you should read between the lines before you make comments like that about Sanders or the people pulling his strings
    Feel free to enlighten us on those backing/pulling his strings...
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    Quote Originally Posted by megabyteme View Post
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    Was this said to bait me Meg??

    I think you should read between the lines before you make comments like that about Sanders or the people pulling his strings
    Feel free to enlighten us on those backing/pulling his strings...
    And doing this i will be a target of bigotry, racists and anything you can think of because of my background
    One thing i will mention is just take a look at his brothers beliefs, and do some actual research on non US Canadian media, and of course read between the lines (part truth and part bullshit!!),
    Sanders = imagration that will not help the lives of people who want to live in a peaceful Democracy (and leans on Canada , Britain and UK feeling it now, read into Britian's Labour party?? nothing on US or Canadian news?? Amazing isn't it?? And what happened in France Well??)...

    Trump= Really who the fuck knows what this guy is really capable of?? I guess it will depend who he puts into the jobs to run the country and national affairs right??

    Clinton= Well this can go different ways as well but i do think she has the most experience to run a country, and this could backfire on say my personal interest, but i think she can understand foreign policy better than anyone, but again what she does with that experience could be like rolling snake-eyes.

    The bottom line i am saying is... No matter what President you end up with Meg, What goes on in the rest of the world influences everything, and the wrong reactions can change the way of living.....

    Do some research outside of US media Meg... It is very interesting reading on who becomes the next US President
    EG. how much Longevity do you think Trudeau will have in Canada?? Will see what the future holds on that?? And i thank G-D we have your military on our side, because if we didn't we would be FUCKED!!!!(Canada of course, not the other place, they do fine on there own)....

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    PS. Are you going to answer my PM?? Think of Sanders when you do K
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaina View Post
    [...]

    The bottom line i am saying is... No matter what President you end up with Meg, What goes on in the rest of the world influences everything, and the wrong reactions can change the way of living.....

    Do some research outside of US media Meg... It is very interesting reading on who becomes the next US President
    EG. how much Longevity to you think Trudeau will have in Canada?? Will see what the future holds on that?? And i thank G-D we have your military on our side, because if we didn't we would be FUCKED!!!!(Canada of course, not the other place, they do fine on there own)....

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    PS. Are you going to answer my PM?? Think of Sanders when you do K
    Sanders has a lifetime of being first to stand up for civil rights, so I don't see how this ties to policies that would be counter. You do realize he was raised Jewish, right? Has he done anything anti-semitic? Has he done anything indicating bad choices? His voting record is available on wikipedia- which is actually pretty darn good for humanity, imo.

    I will keep your PM in mind, Shay. I don't have a great answer for you. Immigration has always been a hot issue. Religious beliefs affecting lawmaking and political powerbase have been, too. The world is becoming less religious now than it ever has been- people are frequently open about being agnostic or atheist. Spread of information has brought a lot of doubt into people's minds about this topic. I do not see laws being made entirely based upon religion to sweep through the West.

    People are fleeing the Middle East because it is a miserable Hellhole. Nobody wants to live where it gets to 120F on a regular basis (sorry, Texans). They want to come where their families can prosper and their resources go further. People *do* bring their beliefs with them- but not everyone who comes is an extremist, nor are their children willing to follow in their beliefs once the have seen other possibilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by megabyteme View Post
    People are fleeing the Middle East because it is a miserable Hellhole. Nobody wants to live where it gets to 120F on a regular basis (sorry, Texans). They want to come where their families can prosper and their resources go further. People *do* bring their beliefs with them- but not everyone who comes is an extremist, nor are their children willing to follow in their beliefs once the have seen other possibilities.
    I agree 100% on this Meg... But lets take a scenario into this?? Let a 1000 immigrants into Canada or the US?? and by not proper screening 1 extremist gets in??
    now what happens?? Again this can be for any race or religion, but the worst for ideology we know at this time is??
    So now that immigrant is in Canada and sends for others?? Now they cross the border into your neck of the woods (Max a few hour drive), now that screws it up for everyone trying to live in peace correct..
    And the big problem is if the child in question is raised in a Democracy and you have Parents religious beliefs that are not changed to a domestic life?? is that child safe?? not a bloody chance!!,so why would the parents take that chance to poison there beliefs?? and the question is on the PM?? Why would a true believer of sharia law want to live in a Democracy State or Country??
    And Arab Christian ??Yes and getting slaughtered in the middle east, a non conforming Sharia Law Muslim?? getting slaughtered in the Middle East, that i can see wanting to come to America and having a better life, but going through the laws of Sharia and looking at radical religion in perspective?? I am sorry i can't see a better life.. So Why Move?? In theory, your live should not me in danger nor your way of life in jeopardy?? So that answer is puzzling to me??

    Then i thought?? We have pockets of Mennonites and Amish in Ontario?? Again they choose to live in Canada free to live the way they want, and yet if one of there offspring decide to leave the way of living?? what do the parents do about that?? I would assume nothing because you don't hear of any arms of heads cut off in those groups?? And again they still have to abide by the laws legislated in the country they chose to live in and that would be that...

    Does that work for Sharia Law??
    If they see a women driving a car does that give them the right to stand in front of that car and beat her??
    If they take over and have a small town in London (happening in parts of Quebec right now!!) with everyone believing in Sharia Law and a women stops for gas in the town can he Take the car away from her and beat her??
    Can there laws supersede the laws of the Democratic Country??
    They would have to if that is there belief correct??
    Very Interesting and scary Questions Meg, so if you are safe in your own country and want to live a Sharia Law lifestyle why leave??

    I know if my life was in danger in Saudi Arabia because i chose not to conform (Again Dictatorship not Democracy), how long would it take before i took my family out of there??(That is as long as i wasn't killed first for choosing a different way of living??), I can say they would be things left behind because it would take too long to move!!!

    Now you could say there is different interpretations of Sharia Law?? again the main ingredient is always there, conform or pay the consequences..
    Meg it is not a subject of Question?? It is the question why?? No fear no danger in your home land?? Why??
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaina View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by megabyteme View Post
    People are fleeing the Middle East because it is a miserable Hellhole. Nobody wants to live where it gets to 120F on a regular basis (sorry, Texans). They want to come where their families can prosper and their resources go further. People *do* bring their beliefs with them- but not everyone who comes is an extremist, nor are their children willing to follow in their beliefs once the have seen other possibilities.
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    Now you could say there is different interpretations of Sharia Law?? again the main ingredient is always there, conform or pay the consequences..
    Meg it is not a subject of Question?? It is the question why?? No fear no danger in your home land?? Why??
    You seem to want to ignore all the other possibilities with the one answer you have in mind: taking over/invading/destroying. There are various reasons why families would choose to immigrate to the west. Not all of them are sinister. All religions do work to spread their beliefs- look at how 'helpful' Christianity has been in Africa. Pilgrims headed West look how successful that group was...

    I don't stay awake at night fearing this any more than I do 'A billion Chinese marching from China', the Russians invading, or Jews controlling the money supp... Shit!
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    Quote Originally Posted by megabyteme View Post





    Sanders has a lifetime of being first to stand up for civil rights, so I don't see how this ties to policies that would be counter. You do realize he was raised Jewish, right? Has he done anything anti-semitic? Has he done anything indicating bad choices? His voting record is available on wikipedia- which is actually pretty darn good for humanity, imo.
    Again some things can be smoke and mirrors Like Trump...

    To get votes Trump is now saying in Israel now has the rights to build in the West Bank settlements?? I am a Jew i can say until the lines are truly drawn it is a very big mistake for Israel to do that!!! Now does that make me a trader to my people?? Maybe some would look at it that way
    But in reality to me it is an instigation, and really is not helping to keep the calm there until there is some sort of solution to fix it. Now is that going to happen in my lifetime?? Who really knows, but it is like the Hatfields and the Mccoys, they both have to take loses (not human of course), to make gains.. But the biggest problem is COEXISTENCE!!, as i have and always will say there is wrongs on both sides, but Hate!! has to stop everywhere!!!

    Now For Bernie?? You can read all the US media you want on this guy, he is a puppet, the shots of the majority rallies this guy has is Terrorist sympathizers. The photos are taken of Hamas and Hezbollah Flags and BDS shirts ( His brother is a part of), and Do you really think you can be a Jew and not hate them at the same time?? Grow UP!! I am not in love with all of them either and Christians are all not in love with the Pope LOL!!
    I mean it is happening in Towns in Britain now, for some of these people to stay in politics in there area they have joined well known Terrorist sympathizers (documented not because who i am!!), for fear of there jobs, and guessing Israel Jewish hatters as well!!!
    It just really amazes me that it is not only Jews that live in Israel?? If the Palestinians did recover some of the the land back from Israel ?? What would they do to the Christians and other religious people living there?? Just ask what they did to the Churches in Gaza and West Bank??Oh Ya!!! They don't exist anymore?? I wonder why?? It's Israel and the Jewish people's fault right?? LOL!!!
    But this guy is in bed with a lot of bad people and Because he is not Trumps running mate i can see why this never came out on the US side of media/news
    Nobody has ever campaigned like Trump before, and Clinton is not built that way....
    So Yes he is Jewish and i wouldn't vote for him in a million years!!!
    Hillary is not a Puppet so what ever happens, happens right??
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    Go ahead and post links from these 'non-US sources' with hidden info. The difference between Trump and Sanders is that Sanders has a true history of his voting record and his direct participation in civil rights all the way back to the 60's. Trump has nothing; Hillary has nothing but scandal and corruption.
    Quote Originally Posted by IdolEyes787 View Post
    Ghey lumberjacks, wolverines, blackflies in the summer, polar bears in the winter, that's basically Canada in a nutshell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by megabyteme View Post
    You seem to want to ignore all the other possibilities with the one answer you have in mind: taking over/invading/destroying. There are various reasons why families would choose to immigrate to the west. Not all of them are sinister. All religions do work to spread their beliefs- look at how 'helpful' Christianity has been in Africa. Pilgrims headed West look how successful that group was...
    I don't stay awake at night fearing this any more than I do 'A billion Chinese marching from China', the Russians invading, or Jews controlling the money supp... Shit!
    Sure Meg... But you want someone in charge that does the worrying for you

    It is been proven/factual that there is a Religion/Cult that is spreading in Africa, Philippine's and other distressed countries believing it will help them (brainwashed like in any cult), you just seem to forget all the weak minded people in the world, be it starving or poor, that can be manipulated into believing anything..
    Would you live in a refugee camp with your wife and children knowing you could leave anytime you wanted and better yourself?? Or would you stay there for 40 years on beliefs that someone is going to make it better??
    And i can tell you it scares me...
    The biggest problem is not fear, it is facing reality....

    PS. and on the last one That shouldn't scare you, no one in your country is smart enough to do a better job LOL!! Or wouldn't you think they would have it
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    Quote Originally Posted by megabyteme View Post
    Go ahead and post links from these 'non-US sources' with hidden info. The difference between Trump and Sanders is that Sanders has a true history of his voting record and his direct participation in civil rights all the way back to the 60's. Trump has nothing; Hillary has nothing but scandal and corruption.
    That's what makes News in the US my friend, and i said read between the lines on Foreign News(including Russia that's hates the US and Israel LOL!!)
    Sanders is a Putz and a puppet, do you really think he doesn't have advisers that help??
    Meg you can vote for anyone you want, it is your right...But before you jump at me to post things ?? trust your judgment and being an intelligent person do your own research on your Presidential candidates (plus this is all crap because Sanders is not going to beat Clinton anyways), And anyone supposedly running the country (don't forget the advisers Kerry for instance), you hope has the best interest of life, and foreign policy is very important for that freedom..

    I feel safe when i hear stories like this yet a small blurb on news media (was in the Florida newspapers, But gotta keep the Iran deal safe i guess, and this happens all the time , but if you don't read in the right places Meg you feel safe)
    Follow the nice link
    http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/news/1.717538

    PS. And Sanders is not Pro anything until the puppeteer pulls his strings, Is that the same for Clinton and Trump??

    And Americans remember the scandals, not the 10 things not reported in US news that saved lives, Just like the Iran deal (still selling arms to Terrorists around the world )??? Obama's legacy right?? When that goes sideways what happens to legacy's

    Read this Trust, working at its best This is you guys but Israel will get blamed in some way

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/05/wo...gulf.html?_r=0
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