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    Quote Originally Posted by IdolEyes787 View Post
    Looking at the internet comments after Trump's statement, I see that the Russian trolls are out in full force. At least I assume they are Russian trolls because I still like to delude myself that no one is that stupid.

    Best president ever? He keeps his promises?
    Why do you say that??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skiz View Post
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    Wouldn't happen unless the kid was actually born on US soil. Just having US citizenship from his mom won't make him/her eligible to be President.

    That's why I am happy that Ted Cruz was born in Canada.
    Nope. Children of US parents are US citizens regardless of what country they are born in. I'll go find a source if you wish to debate it.
    I am not arguing that. But the constitution contains Article 2, Clause 5, which states that: "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; [...]". Per Wikipedia: "The U.S. Constitution uses but does not define the phrase "natural born Citizen", and various opinions have been offered over time regarding its precise meaning. The consensus of early 21st-century constitutional scholars, together with relevant case law, is that natural-born citizens include, subject to exceptions, those born in the United States."

    I rest my case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caballero View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Skiz View Post

    Nope. Children of US parents are US citizens regardless of what country they are born in. I'll go find a source if you wish to debate it.
    I am not arguing that. But the constitution contains Article 2, Clause 5, which states that: "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; [...]". Per Wikipedia: "The U.S. Constitution uses but does not define the phrase "natural born Citizen", and various opinions have been offered over time regarding its precise meaning. The consensus of early 21st-century constitutional scholars, together with relevant case law, is that natural-born citizens include, subject to exceptions, those born in the United States."

    I rest my case.
    Isn't that what i said

    Citizen and US born Citizen are two different things.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaina View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Skiz View Post

    Nope. Children of US parents are US citizens regardless of what country they are born in. I'll go find a source if you wish to debate it.
    So you are saying you don't have to register or apply for citizenship?? If you were born in another country, how does the US know it??
    What Records??
    In Canada....
    Dual Citizenship
    But can you be considered a true born Canadian?? Citizen, yes but not a born one
    You or your parents will have to register and/or apply for a passport for you, but you don't have to apply for Citizenship per se. Citizenship you have, regardless of whether you have a passport or not (on the other hand, just because you have a passport does not make you a citizen).

    If you were born to US parents abroad and they never got you a passport or registered you with the embassy while you were little, and now years later you wanted to establish your citizenship you would file an N-600 with USCIS, which is an application for a Certificate of Citizenship, but not an application for citizenship. That would be an N-400 (aka application for naturalization).

    And the US doesn't give a hoot about what other citizenships you may have. I think it even says so in the US passport; the US *tolerates* dual citizenship but does not recognize it (meaning, if you are Canadian and US citizen, the moment you cross the border south you are seen as a US citizen only and would not have a legal right to legal assistance from the Canadian embassy/consulate if you got into trouble with the law).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caballero View Post
    You or your parents will have to register and/or apply for a passport for you, but you don't have to apply for Citizenship per se. Citizenship you have, regardless of whether you have a passport or not (on the other hand, just because you have a passport does not make you a citizen).
    If you were born to US parents abroad and they never got you a passport or registered you with the embassy while you were little, and now years later you wanted to establish your citizenship you would file an N-600 with USCIS, which is an application for a Certificate of Citizenship, but not an application for citizenship. That would be an N-400 (aka application for naturalization).
    And the US doesn't give a hoot about what other citizenships you may have. I think it even says so in the US passport; the US *tolerates* dual citizenship but does not recognize it (meaning, if you are Canadian and US citizen, the moment you cross the border south you are seen as a US citizen only and would not have a legal right to legal assistance from the Canadian embassy/consulate if you got into trouble with the law).
    All Makes sense to me

    What i think happened with my friends daughter... once she turned 18 and if she wanted to keep her US status, she did need to apply for a US social security number and do a tax return (i am pretty sure ), or she would forfeit the dual status??

    My friend is a Periodontist and got his degree in New York , so he lived there with his wife for a few years, and bing bang boom the wife got pregnant..
    And yes Idol they had paid for health insurance so they didn't need to come back home and have the baby, funny he paid for insurance?? He is a cheap fuck

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaina View Post
    What i think happened with my friends daughter... once she turned 18 and if she wanted to keep her US status, she did need to apply for a US social security number and do a tax return (i am pretty sure ), or she would forfeit the dual status??
    No. If push came to shove she may be facing penalties and interest for not filing a tax return (if she ever moved to the US and got under the jurisdiction of the IRS), but she would not lose her US citizenship unless she actively renounced it at a US consulate (oh yes, there's a fee for that, too).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caballero View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by shaina View Post
    What i think happened with my friends daughter... once she turned 18 and if she wanted to keep her US status, she did need to apply for a US social security number and do a tax return (i am pretty sure ), or she would forfeit the dual status??
    No. If push came to shove she may be facing penalties and interest for not filing a tax return (if she ever moved to the US and got under the jurisdiction of the IRS), but she would not lose her US citizenship unless she actively renounced it at a US consulate (oh yes, there's a fee for that, too).
    Well it was at a party at his house when he told me so

    Is you say so i believe you, plus it is not going to change my life's existence

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    A person born abroad in wedlock to a U.S. citizen mother and a U.S. citizen father acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under section 301(c) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), if one of the parents has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions prior to the person’s birth.

    A person born abroad out-of-wedlock to a U.S. citizen father may acquire U.S. citizenship under Section 301(c) or 301(g) of the INA, as made applicable by the “new” Section 309(a) of the INA if:

    A blood relationship between the person and the father is established by clear and convincing evidence;
    The father had the nationality of the United States at the time of the person’s birth;
    The father (unless deceased) has agreed in writing to provide financial support for the person until the person reaches the age of 18 years, and
    While the person is under the age of 18 years --
    the person is legitimated under the law of his/her residence or domicile,
    the father acknowledges paternity of the person in writing under oath, or
    the paternity of the person is established by adjudication of a competent court.
    This is pretty all inclusive. Tough to find a situation which isn't covered. Prob written to cover not just civilians but military personnel as well.
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    That's fascinating, which I didn't know all of the details of before.

    Basically, no blacks, then...
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    It's impossible to do that. Galera, let me win, please.

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