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[shaina]

People shouldn't be able to purchase additonal health care on top of what the government provides as gives a certain class less incentive to insist the government program is the best it can possibly be. That and money alone shouldn't ever determine who lives and who dies. I mean I kinda hope we've progressed as a society a teeny tiny bit from Ancient Rome.

That's like saying who you know shouldn't influence or move you up in the line for care, MRI , CT scan?? And we know that true right, and never happens regardless of self wealth or faith or gender I am not sure what "ism" that falls into Idol??
Funny i remember having to wait for a government scheduled CT scan that was 8 months , but one visit to my Urologist it happened to get done within 2 days, and no bribe or money exchange, or even a round at one of his favorite golf courses. It Happen, just from personal charm and extreme patient pain!!. And funny it would have been done in one day, but there is no staff in the hospital that runs CT scans at night so i had to stay in the Emergency for 28 hours until the next day to get it, And lets not mention how long you have to wait for a bed to open because if you are not admitted no operation, if you want to do it as a outpatient, it will take months!!!, now ask why some people are addicted to opioids. The same with no scheduled surgery on weekends unless it is life threatening!!, and extreme pain is not consider life threatening, and the operating room sections are massive in the hospitals i have been into, and most of the time empty, because not enough OR nurses!!, and scheduled operations must be completed before 4Pm because again not enough nurses?? So when a OR schedule is made if a time est surgery goes over the time you will be bumped for the next day!!! Amazing on how many Canadians that graduate to become a nurse move across the US because it is easier to get a job there, yet Nurses are needed here big time in our Hospitals!!!!! Gov says not enough money in the budget to pay them!!
But i do know that in the US MRI's and CT scans have better hours and if you have a good job and paid health insurance , you don't wait 8 months to get one there, I am thinking with Socialists Health Care , those people just can't wait for it to happen, Even know, and i sincerely say that is not fair to the rest, it is reality..
Here is a something to think about?? Say Idol someone from another Country comes here and has an emergency or accident?? And they go to a Canadian Hospital, they have to pay right?? So because they are paying big dollars with no Insurance (Or Use a Credit Card), do you think they are entitled to move ahead of the line of other true Canadian Citizens??
Another true story, My Mother-inlaw's blood went low in Florida one year, so she needed a blood transfusion, it was done the next day and costs three thousand dollars US, that needed to be paid up front. Now she had out of country insurance and got most of it back (not all) but she was treated right away in a private hospital, and she said it was unbelievable how the service there was amazing compared to here. I am thinking that if Americans do get paid insurance Health Care, i really don't think they will accept public/government run care if it is not the same treatment they have experienced... Just my opinion, nor saying i agree there should be double standards, a life is a life like you say, but when it is one of your own blood life's , you do think different. Really how many MRI's my wife got in the span she was in the Hospital, i can tell you for sure people got bumped because of it, and i do feel bad but.......
The same here try to see if a GP doctor here will take you on as a patient if you have multiple things wrong with you?? They don't, based on how the government pays them, they don't benefit monetarily, and are government salary capped.. The work around!! Open and own walk in clinics, pay new doctors x amount and take a piece of there gov cap greed again buddy

[Something Else]

Have a lovely Monday, bar-stewards.

[Caballero]

People shouldn't be able to purchase additonal health care on top of what the government provides as gives a certain class less incentive to insist the government program is the best it can possibly be.

You know, I've been thinking about that, and I am not sure I agree completely. As long as it is ensured that everyone gets a standard/minimum that they need, who cares if someone else can buy a little extra. Clearly we don't want to make heart transplants something that is outside the scope of the "minimum", but if you want to pay extra to get a single room in the hospital instead of sharing it with other patients, or if you want to pay for Double-D implants after a masectomy...?

It's like marriage for all -- who gives a shit if gays and lesbians want to marry. It affects my own marriage precisely zero.

[MacGyverSG1]

I think if someone has the money to pay for extra service, that is ok. But paying to get faster service is NOT ok. Unfortunately it is very hard to have a universal healthcare system when you have a large population that is unhealthy (Canada and UK finding that out). A big reason why the ACA costs a lot (and republicans have done everything in their power to make it fail). I think a Medicare-For-All system could work, if done right. Unfortunately there is too much fraud/corruption occurring currently (no real oversight going on, $$$). Get rid of all the health insurance companies and use that money to help fund healthcare and police the system. Pass a law to stop advertising of all drugs (prescription and OTC). Fix the patent system so big pharma can't cheat anymore. Many more things could be done to make healthcare affordable and efficient. Need to take profit out of the equation.

[shaina]

People shouldn't be able to purchase additonal health care on top of what the government provides as gives a certain class less incentive to insist the government program is the best it can possibly be.

You know, I've been thinking about that, and I am not sure I agree completely. As long as it is ensured that everyone gets a standard/minimum that they need, who cares if someone else can buy a little extra. Clearly we don't want to make heart transplants something that is outside the scope of the "minimum", but if you want to pay extra to get a single room in the hospital instead of sharing it with other patients, or if you want to pay for Double-D implants after a masectomy...?It's like marriage for all -- who gives a shit if gays and lesbians want to marry. It affects my own marriage precisely zero.

Thank you!!!
Exactly my point, , and Idols penis enlargement would be considered Elective Surgery, i think and Megs Breast Implants would deter him from the young-lings , knowing now he can feel himself up that may fall into a grey area??.... Americans will have to see and read the final plan that goes to the floor for a vote...And also not really sure but be careful on the LGBTQ2 debates, not sure if it does affect Idol :...

[shaina]

I think if someone has the money to pay for extra service, that is ok. But paying to get faster service is NOT ok. Unfortunately it is very hard to have a universal healthcare system when you have a large population that is unhealthy (Canada and UK finding that out). A big reason why the ACA costs a lot (and republicans have done everything in their power to make it fail). I think a Medicare-For-All system could work, if done right. Unfortunately there is too much fraud/corruption occurring currently (no real oversight going on, $$$). Get rid of all the health insurance companies and use that money to help fund healthcare and police the system. Pass a law to stop advertising of all drugs (prescription and OTC). Fix the patent system so big pharma can't cheat anymore. Many more things could be done to make healthcare affordable and efficient. Need to take profit out of the equation.

Get rid of Health Insurance Companies?? Or Plain Insurance companies?? Cars, Drugs, Dental, Vision?? All should be government controlled and paid for, you want to see chaos and corruption, just let that happen!!!!. i am trying to figure out the Lefts plan to sew cows asses up so it eliminates methane gases LOL!!
Interesting debates we are having here, the true Americans that are old enough to vote will see through all of this crap, and come out in droves to stop these fantasies from ever ruining a Capitalist Democracy Country, If not?? G-D help anyone connected to the US, and especially us in Canada!!....
You Talk Big Pharma?? Do you know how things work?? How many meds never hit the public, but cost to invent or develop?? Jobs?? Economy??
I think we should get rid of everything??, people can go live in caves and live to the high age of 35?? When a drug here is approved and it is used by many, it is then made as a Generic and reduced in cost to the public, but if it costs x amount to invent/produce a drug it is a crazy price until the expense of the drug is recouped, again is there a profit?? Fucking right there is!!, Capitalism!! If you don't like it?? You could always go to a socialists country, and if you are not related to Putin or other dictators, good luck if you ever think you will see the meds you need??
The same here in Canada, if you can't afford drugs here, there is other avenues to get meds paid for, be it actual drug companies or charity organizations, and of course Government subsidies.. Do you not have Medicate in the US??
What amazes me MacGyver, you talk about Big Pharma and all these other things that are based on Democracy and Capitalism?? That is the USA??
why do you choose to live there otherwise?? And don't you find it strange that everyone is trying to get into the US?? and where are theses people coming from?? are they coming from Democracy States/Countries?? Is that not a clue that some things just don't work?? I never here line ups at the Border of Russia or other socialist Countries?? Is that not a hint??

[megabyteme]

Megs Breast Implants reduction.

ftfy

[shaina]

Megs Breast Implants reduction.

ftfy

Again lets be serious about that!!!! If it did affect your back and was authorized by a physician?? Here it would be covered!!, again would not be considered cosmetic, women here can get reductions done, if it is causing pain, and also they fix and make them even and pleasing
True story, how stupid is this!!!, for you to get a gastric bypass here, you have to be over 600 pounds, or have a heart issue!!, but then we won't talk about the wait list even if you do qualify for the surgery!!!! my brother was just under that and they wouldn't cover it, so he paid for a laparoscopic Band surgery, that was a big mistake!!! Fucked him up worse!!, but anyways I knew a few people that went across the border and got the bypass surgery done, and yes it was not cheap, but they paid monthly and got it done, it was life saving for them!!!..
Our system here is good and bad, again how they are going to implement it in the US if it ever happens in my lifetime will be very interesting...

And it is nice to see you buddy, and hope all is well

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[shaina]

Interesting find of the day....

"Funny how individuals with no money/property tell those individuals with money/property what to do"

It was spotted on the back of a 2019 Mercedes Maybach S600

[IdolEyes787]

"Funny how individuals with no money/property tell those individuals with money/property what to do"

Actually the other way around in any way that effects non-snowflakes but I suppose if you're the sort of delusional fuck who puts that on a bumpersticker it makes for a better narrative.

"I drive a expensive car and I'm an ignoramus. Clearly it is I and not the homeless children who need your pity. Pity me, all those beneath me. Sad".