Last one to post wins the internets

[shaina]

Happy V-day to all except Idol (we know Idol has NO interest in anything beginning with 'v' ).

Same to you and the family Meg, I can tell you i gave my wife some chocolates, in Hope of getting some (Close your eyes Idol this is not really a pertinent post for you ), and i ain't talking BBQ Spare Ribs either Meg

[Caballero]

Tell me one genuinely postive thing either professional or personal about Trump that can be directly attributed to him and I will never bad-mouth him again. I don't think I can be any fairer than that.

Btw being a traitor, although I'm sure it's highly lucrative, isn't widely considered to be a positve.

-Moving the Embassy to Jerusalem
-Economy
-Trying to Secure the borders
-Fighting Terrorists Abroad
-Getting out of the Iran Deal
-Fixing NAFTA for better of both countries
-Fucking everyone that is not willing to pay there share
-Jobs!!!
-Trying to correct the lop sided deals with China
-North Korea
-Trying to correct Obama Care
-Helping Veterans

Alright, let's see...

-Moving the Embassy to Jerusalem -- Nothing won there. Seriously, give me one good example of what that accomplished. And if that was such a great move, why has virtually no other country followed suit?
-Economy -- piggybacking on the policies of Obama. And demonstrating great macro-economic savvy with his crappy tax reform and tariffs.
-Trying to Secure the borders -- a bullshit wall does nothing to stem the flow of drugs and other contraband if the vast majority comes in through legal checkpoints. Also does nothing for illegal immigration if most people these days come through airports and simply overstay their visas.
-Fighting Terrorists Abroad -- by withdrawing from Syria before ISIS is defeated?
-Getting out of the Iran Deal -- nothing good about that. Ask the Europeans. Besides, great precedent set for how much the word of the US is worth these days on the international stage if they just unilaterally cancel previous administrations' agreements even though all counter parties perform according to their obligations under said agreements.
-Fixing NAFTA for better of both countries -- Given that NAFTA involved three countries, I guess the third one suffers? And I still don't see the benefits you claim for USMCA vs NAFTA?
-Fucking everyone that is not willing to pay there share -- Please provide more context.
-Jobs!!! -- again, piggybacking on the policies of Obama. And killing millions of jobs in alternative energy to "save" a few thousand coal jobs. Similarly, killing jobs in steel-consuming industries to "create" a few jobs in the steel-producing industry?
-Trying to correct the lop sided deals with China -- what deals? Last I checked, trade in the US was conducted by (private) companies and not the state.
-North Korea -- a photo op is not a substitute for substantial policy.
-Trying to correct Obama Care -- by eliminating protections for preexisting conditions and introducing so much uncertainty into the market that (a) premiums skyrocket and (b) 10 million people have lost their insurance this year?
-Helping Veterans -- by moving funds from VA housing to pay for that stupid wall?

TL;DR: No.

[Caballero]

Oh, and honestly, choosing Pence as VP was a stroke of genius. If Trump was impeached, you'd have a homophobic believer in conversion therapy with mommy issues as head of state. Nobody wants that; it's kind of the equivalent of a poison pill when you talk of corporate takeovers...

[Caballero]

Hey Shamir — here’s another sign how successful your favorite prez is in his handling of the economy:

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/at...-27-2019-02-14

[shaina]

Hey Shamir — here’s another sign how successful your favorite prez is in his handling of the economy:
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/at...-27-2019-02-14

Amazing you show me one site and i can show you 10 that debunk that...

Simple question Cabby, you live the the US, are you putting more money in your pocket with tax cuts?? Not asking you blah blah blah,well he said it should be this much, or Obama the great, the question is are you putting more money in your pocket??

Next.. If anyone should know it should be you, Where is Israels government located?? Where is the Knesset?? Where is the Palestinians government located if you want to call what they have government?? That is reality!! Trump moved the embassy and some others have followed because Israel is never going to give up one piece of Jerusalem, that is reality. you can call it what ever you want, for security reasons they will never give up the settlements nor one more piece of land to get bloodshed, again that is reality if you live there. Egypt and Jordan push other agendas Keep peace with Israel, and don't give a shit about the Palestinians, Syria doesn't give a shit about the Palestinians, all there brothers close there doors and don't give a shit about them!!, but there hatred for Israel is greater even know there is 2 million Arabs that live in Israel in peace and are not rushing to leave to go to an Arab state. They have good jobs and live peacefully. Trump had balls and moved the embassy after paying 70 plus years of aid to the Palestinians with zero return or peace. Again, blame Israel for not keeping UN resolutions?? They are never going to happen or they would have a long time ago, and when they gave the Palestinians almost everything they wanted except right of return, which is ridiculous, they turned it down, and no talk ever about the 800 thousand Jews that were in Arab countries and kicked out with there clothes on there backs!! lost there businesses and Homes , but they got out and went wherever and made better live for themselves... And i can go on and on, but really what is the point..
And i will say that there are some things that Israel does do that i don't agree with, but it is a Democratic state surrounded by hostels , and they outnumber them by the millions, but they are scared shit to attack the tiny State, and they protect there own, no help period!!!... Again one that should know that makes a comment like you did is disappointing.. And don't bring up the aid that the US gives Israel you will just look like a fool, they never see that money!!!....

And finishing up... Obama was so great as you say And how the election went down and was supposed to be a landslide for Clinton, which would have just kept Obama's agenda?? Yet Trump beat her badly!! Why?? Same here no poles thought the Liberals has a chance here yet one political promise got him elected, and he kept his promise, just the same as your president, regardless if you like his agenda or not, he was voted as your President. And if everyone thinks they are so intelligent?? Do you think the Jews pushed the agenda or the Christians did?? Sure the Jews of Israel were pleased of the reality finally shown, but it was the Christians that pushed it more and got it done......

Edit: Now show me one North American media news showed that Egypt gassed a tunnel from Gaza into Egypt, and killed 2 and injured many more Hamas Terrorist trying to smuggle arms and cash in. So really ask yourself Egypt closes there borders Jordan and Syria keeps them in camps with no chance of getting or giving them citizenship in those countries , or kills them... why are they not helping them?? why do they want Israel?? After 70 plus years and going nowhere?? Wars!!?? and Tons of people want to immigrate to Israel, all the rest of the middle east they are trying to get out and flooding Europe, and turning it into a toilet seat!!!

I expect better from you Cabby

[MacGyverSG1]

Simple question Cabby, you live the the US, are you putting more money in your pocket with tax cuts?? Not asking you blah blah blah,well he said it should be this much, or Obama the great, the question is are you putting more money in your pocket??

That is a stupid question. Most people are only seeing a small increase in their paycheck ($10-$15 per week), unless of course you are rich then the increase is significant. I'd rather see that money go towards healthcare, education, infrastructure, etc. The tax cut is just going to make rich people richer and increase the national debt significantly. But I guess as long as republicans make the rich richer, the rich will keep getting them reelected. Then with the next crash, a Democrat will have to come in and fix it. Once everything gets back on track a republican will take power again and fuck it up again. We have been in this cycle for far too long.

[MacGyverSG1]

It's also funny Idol that if you want to be critical on anything Trump does do?? Remember you can take it out of his shitty pay for being President, that he is not taking. Do you know of any other President that relinquished his pay (I think that is the right word to use)...

Funny also, they did some articles on Republican web sites/news and obviously on your favorite Fox News , and showed clips from far left or prominent Democratic news places, how they actually make sure Trump is mentioned in everything even know it has nothing to do with him, it was quite funny to watch , and really sad how much they really hate him, no matter what he does LOL!!!.
And boy you can see the steam coming out of News Reporters ears when they actually have to say something positive about him LOL!!!.. And then they spin it right away on the dumbest negative things.. And stats out that Fox News is still the number one News Station/Media, and the only things giving some hope to other News outlets, is to see what ridiculous things they say or do about Trump

Tr*mp is making more money from his tax cut/reform, DC Hotel and Mar-a-Lago. The president's salary is $400,000 plus many added benefits. Tr*mp might not be taking the $400K (doesn't impress me), but he uses everything else. His travel expenses are going to cost the US a ton.

Faux News being number one among cable news channels doesn't make it more credible. After all, Faux News IS an entertainment channel. They were sued many times for what people said on your favorite shows, but they were found not liable because their defense is that their shows are for entertainment purposes only. Everything stated on their shows is the opinions of those people (NOT facts).

[shaina]

That is a stupid questions. Most people are only seeing a small increase in their paycheck ($10-$15 per week), unless of course you are rich then the increase is significant. I'd rather see that money go towards healthcare, education, infrastructure, etc. The tax cut is just going to make rich people richer and increase the national debt significantly. But I guess as long as republicans make the rich richer, the rich will keep getting them reelected. Then with the next crash, a Democrat will have to come in and fix it. Once everything gets back on track a republican will take power again and fuck it up again. We have been in this cycle for far too long.

There is no such thing as a stupid questions, the same no stupid answer, just opinions, and i respect everyone's.......
Democracies Baby (If you know what i mean) , and i will say i do believe and progress as well MacGyver, but realistic, and progress means to me going forward not backwards. The same if everyone was rich would the world be a better place?? If everyone was poor would it be a better place?? Example... You make $50 you see $45, if you make a $100 you see $65, of course you make more??? Now do it in the Millions vs the hundred's of thousand's?? of course the Millionaires make more??

It is like a guy that works and makes so much, now he works overtime which puts him in a different tax bracket?? So he is working harder for more money but not to the degree you are happy with because of tax?? A person thinks he should be taxed less because he is working harder to actually make a less increase?? And you want socialized health care?? Where do you think the money to pay for it comes from??
As smart Idol will tell you there is a difference between personal tax and business tax. And the rich take advantage of that, or really is that an incentive?? The same as thinking if you give a Rich company incentives to come and build in your state?? and it gives jobs, which again produces taxes?? economy growth, revenue for other companies in the state, yes the middle class pays, but that is how the world works, or they can go out on the street corners with an instrument and beg for money, because they don't have the funds or sometimes just not motivated enough, to take a shot and start a business?? some people are just not built that way MacGyver, some people are just workers. electricians, house framers, roofers, city workers, So depending how you choose to live?? If you are a saver and live moderate?? you will live moderate hopefully when you can retire??. But don't begrudge the guy that took the shot and is successful , and in return gives other people jobs... That my friend is not greed that is life and reality in a Capitalist society.....

How about a pyramid scheme?? The guy who invents it is always going to be on the top, so now the people that come in from the bottom what to be as close to the top, but if you are not motivated and hustle to get to the upper tiers, you either a shouldn't be in the pyramid, or b may not be your cup of tea and find something else to do?? Tupperware sales , Amway types sales, kiosk in malls during holiday seasons?? Home shopping networks?? Inventing something?? if you do those things do you reap the rewards in a socialists society??

Again just my opinion.....

[shaina]

Tr*mp is making more money from his tax cut/reform, DC Hotel and Mar-a-Lago. The president's salary is $400,000 plus many added benefits. Tr*mp might not be taking the $400K (doesn't impress me), but he uses everything else. His travel expenses are going to cost the US a ton.

Just like every president before him, but now you are counting and paying attention more, because you dislike the guy, The scandal a while back about the decorations/renovations they thought was Nikki Haley, and no one did there homework other than Faux news, it was the democrats before her, so CNN then went on and blamed Trump anyways. The question should be really really is who is your favorite President?? Was he a Democrat or Republican??

Faux News being number one among cable news channels doesn't make it more credible. After all, Faux News IS an entertainment channel. They were sued many times for what people said on your favorite shows, but they were found not liable because their defense is that their shows are for entertainment purposes only. Everything stated on their shows is the opinions of those people (NOT facts).

Now everyone is following there ways, but failing because they are just not credible, and realistic?? Or maybe Faux News is just so far out!!! it interests the crazies, and there is a lot more of them

[shaina]

Oh, and honestly, choosing Pence as VP was a stroke of genius. If Trump was impeached, you'd have a homophobic believer in conversion therapy with mommy issues as head of state. Nobody wants that; it's kind of the equivalent of a poison pill when you talk of corporate takeovers...