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    Quote Originally Posted by anon View Post
    For Fast Ethernet, absolutely, an order of magnitude greater. For Gigabit Ethernet, less so, though you may get an indirect benefit from not going through the network in the first place (see below).
    The other thing, is there a difference in the router speeds when you are streaming internally??
    Well, bandwidth is always finite and any sort of transfer requires some of it. If you push things too hard, there would eventually be a point where you don't have enough. A gigabit router should have plenty of headroom, though, so you'll be fine unless you stream 4K to multiple TVs at the same time you download a Linux ISO or whatever.
    Ok Anon, i am a bit confused on the "Fast Ethernet"?? Is that not 10/100?? and gigabit is 10/1000??

    http://www.fiber-optic-solutions.com...-ethernet.html

    And doing multiple testing on my actual internet speeds i have never his 1000Mbps, 975-980Mbps max!!!, and i kind of know that has nothing to do with internal streaming right?? And yes i understand if i am downloading something i will get a bit of loss on streaming , and remember i am a Usenet guy so no Torrent shit is running....

    I appreciate that response and help Anon, but did you answer the difference between streaming with a HDD connected to the tv direct or streaming Ethernet throughout the whole house, is there an advantage to lets say having the bigger BD and 4K rips on a HDD and connected direct??? The big thing with my setups is i have surround sound in all of the rooms as well not sound bars or TV speakers?? So the bigger rips sound a ton better as well not just the picture, but i don't waste space on bigger rip TV shows, or Drama Movies, just some of the Favorites i like EG. Deadpool (a few other ryan renolds movies), Fast and Furious (and a Few other vin diesel movies),The Fifth Element (same a few Bruce Willis movies)....

    PS.. MacGyver!!.. What's with all the enclosures??!! never heard of Servers??, is it not more cost effective and efficient to have a server??? Again i am not sure how many TV's you stream too??

    PPS.. So we understand Anon?? I don't use the internet to stream, it is all internal using Universal Media Server not Plex. It never sees the internet, it is all internal. So really is that not internal networking?? and if it is all wired Gigabit network (cat6, and a few cat5e and all Gigabit switches )?? Is that not better than "Fast Internet"??
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    I have many HDDs. When I buy a new HDD, it goes into computer and older one goes to USB enclosure. I don't have smart TVs, so I use a Minix NEO-U1 and NVIDIA Shield TV to play videos and music shared on HDDs. I don't stream from Internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGyverSG1 View Post
    I have many HDDs. When I buy a new HDD, it goes into computer and older one goes to USB enclosure. I don't have smart TVs, so I use a Minix NEO-U1 and NVIDIA Shield TV to play videos and music shared on HDDs. I don't stream from Internet.
    Not all of my TV's are either.....

    My Kids stream Netflix and Amazon and Rogers Cable from the internet, but everything i download is only streamed internally. As i said i use Universal Media Server, and using wired or WIFi in your house you can do the same, it never needs to touch the outside internet, only uses your router......

    We have had this discussion here many many times, even on Plex and again no need for outside internet, and the advantage is you don't need to waste and put duplicate things on HDD's and have them connected to each streaming box.....

    https://www.universalmediaserver.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaina View Post
    Ok Anon, i am a bit confused on the "Fast Ethernet"?? Is that not 10/100?? and gigabit is 10/1000??

    http://www.fiber-optic-solutions.com...-ethernet.html

    And doing multiple testing on my actual internet speeds i have never his 1000Mbps, 975-980Mbps max!!!, and i kind of know that has nothing to do with internal streaming right?? And yes i understand if i am downloading something i will get a bit of loss on streaming , and remember i am a Usenet guy so no Torrent shit is running....
    Fast Ethernet is 10/100, yes. That comment was purely educational, as I knew you're on gigabit Also, you will never get 100% of your connection speed due to various factors. But around 98% of that is very good.

    I appreciate that response and help Anon, but did you answer the difference between streaming with a HDD connected to the tv direct or streaming Ethernet throughout the whole house, is there an advantage to lets say having the bigger BD and 4K rips on a HDD and connected direct???
    I'm fairly sure I answered that in my previous post, but let's rehash In theory, and all else being equal, a direct connection is always better. Of course, you can't plug a disk on every TV and manage the files individually, that would negate the comfort of streaming in the first place. In practice, gigabit is good enough to the point you wouldn't really notice a difference, unless you're using several TVs all at the same time or something like that. Whether the streams are from your local network or come from the Internet doesn't affect this, they both use the same (finite) internal bandwidth you have.
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  5. Software & Hardware   -   #15
    Quote Originally Posted by shaina View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MacGyverSG1 View Post
    I have many HDDs. When I buy a new HDD, it goes into computer and older one goes to USB enclosure. I don't have smart TVs, so I use a Minix NEO-U1 and NVIDIA Shield TV to play videos and music shared on HDDs. I don't stream from Internet.
    Not all of my TV's are either.....

    My Kids stream Netflix and Amazon and Rogers Cable from the internet, but everything i download is only streamed internally. As i said i use Universal Media Server, and using wired or WIFi in your house you can do the same, it never needs to touch the outside internet, only uses your router......

    We have had this discussion here many many times, even on Plex and again no need for outside internet, and the advantage is you don't need to waste and put duplicate things on HDD's and have them connected to each streaming box.....

    https://www.universalmediaserver.com/
    I don't have duplicates of any files. All of my devices stream the files from my Windows 7 Pro PC. The PC has 7 internal HDDs (1 SSD for OS). Then I have 5 HDDs connected by USB external enclosures. I don't do streaming services because Comca$t has bugged me many times in the past about bandwidth abuse. I don't have another high-speed Internet access option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGyverSG1 View Post
    I don't do streaming services because Comca$t has bugged me many times in the past about bandwidth abuse. I don't have another high-speed Internet access option.
    So they sell you high-speed access, but don't want you to use it too much? I thought traffic caps were already supposed to take care of this "abuse"
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  7. Software & Hardware   -   #17
    I remember the first time I got a phone call from a company that Comca$t subcontracts to take care of notify customers about bandwidth abuse. They told me I was using too much bandwidth. I asked them what is the limit. They told me there isn't a limit. Then how am I using too much? I told them I wasn't going to adjust my Internet use. I got another call from them a few months later. Again, I'm using too much bandwidth, but there is no limit. I finally got the guy to say 350GB /month. I was doing 400-600GB. I think the limit is closer to 1TB /month now. I've been doing 20-30GB /day and no complaints so far. Some days I might use less than 1GB.

    I think the problem is Comca$t can't handle the demand. They don't like spending money to upgrade their hardware. Of course they continue to increase their monthly rental fees for remote controls and cable boxes. With republicans in control, it's only going to get worse.

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    Skipping the whole fast(100) vs Gig (1000) debate. Just get aODROID-HC2


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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGyverSG1 View Post
    I don't have duplicates of any files. All of my devices stream the files from my Windows 7 Pro PC. The PC has 7 internal HDDs (1 SSD for OS). Then I have 5 HDDs connected by USB external enclosures. I don't do streaming services because Comca$t has bugged me many times in the past about bandwidth abuse. I don't have another high-speed Internet access option.
    Ok.. That still doesn't make any sense to me, but here it goes, why wouldn't you just buy a Mother Board that has at least 6 sata connections?? For what it costs you to buy those enclosures?? and you did complain, you could buy a reasonably price MOBO and have direct connections ...

    EG. I started off with smaller drives (500gb), and now have eliminated them into min 3TB ones, for me to stream pretty much anything, no need for anything connected other than HD to the sata connections?? Heck you could buy 2 mother boards and save money on enclosures??..

    Comcast??..... On bandwidth?? well as you may see on my older posts, that i use rogers and my service in unlimited downloads, i know Comcast offers that and it is usually cheap to add that feature, and they do that to stay competitive with other internet providers. Just a hint, the downloads in my house are up to 3tb a month!!, not a peep form rogers, they know i am streaming and downloading from something?? but no idea what nor do they care??

    Honestly McGyver, it seems that using a straight MOBO it will save you costs even in electricity no?? And you being a Yankee , the cost to build a full machine to stream will be under $500 easy!!! How much are those enclosures ??? And $10 extra a month to have unlimited downloads?? May be worth it as well??

    Just saying

    PS. I will give you some advice as well in case you didn't know?? When you phone any of these Putz companies, never!!! ever!! speak to the first person that answers the phone!!, ask for Retention or Cancellation. The first person looks at a screen and has limited things they can do, the Retention department has way more flexibility, and usually wants to keep you happy and as a customer......
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  10. Software & Hardware   -   #20
    shaina, If you read my post correctly, you would have noticed that I wrote that I have (7) internal HDDs and (1) internal SSD (that is 8 SATA ports on my MB). Seven HDDs is not enough space (all internal HDDs are 5TB+). The external HDDs are 3TB or 4TB. My next option would be to get a NAS, but they are expensive (the good ones anyways).

    Comca$t in my area wants an extra $30 /month for Unlimited. They didn't add that feature to stay competitive (but to make more money), there is no other option for high-speed Internet (which I also wrote in previous post).

    It would cost me more than $500 to build another computer to use just for streaming.

    I never called anyone. Some Comca$t subcontractor that handles "bandwidth abuse" calls me. I asked for a supervisor when they told me there is no limit, but I'm using too much bandwidth. I get the same message from them. They don't care if Comca$t looses customers. I called Comca$t and they had no idea what I was talking about. Back then their Internet service never had a limit (written in print), not until they had customers like us. The problem was high bandwidth users were slowing things down for other customers on the same node. Then Comca$t started monitoring bandwidth use and hired a company to contact customers that were deemed bandwidth abusers. Monopolies can do what they want, especially when politicians are complicit.

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