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    No system has been more successful at pulling people out of poverty than capitalism. Socialism puts more people into poverty. The more socialism in the country the more poverty there is.....

    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2019/0...nt_a_23645523/

    Agree or disagree?? Really read some of the comments and debates they have (of course you may have to go through some spammers in between).......
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    The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money

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    Perfect example of Fake News that is picked up by every Left Wing media outlet and not long after Debunked and proven fake right out of the horses mouth!!.....

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/muelle...t-russia-deal/

    Nothing better than a good long day of Trump bashing and find out that you have to stick you head back in the sand, and speaking of sand this is plastered all across the Middle East and local news sites Left, Right, Center, you can choose for yourself
    One thing to add, I guarantee that Putin is really getting a good laugh on all of this........
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    The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money

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    Every news site in reporting the orginal Buzzfeed story prefixed it with " in a story yet to be substantiated by any other news organization". I'm pretty sure that is what you call being responsible.

    Unlike say your beloved Faux.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaina View Post
    No system has been more successful at pulling people out of poverty than capitalism. Socialism puts more people into poverty. The more socialism in the country the more poverty there is.....

    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2019/0...nt_a_23645523/

    Agree or disagree?? Really read some of the comments and debates they have (of course you may have to go through some spammers in between).......
    I disagree with anything the Huffington Post writes so do I really still need to subject myself to that video?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaina View Post
    No system has been more successful at pulling people out of poverty than capitalism. Socialism puts more people into poverty. The more socialism in the country the more poverty there is.....
    Odd thing but none of the supposed socialist countries are actually socialist but more along the line of dictatorships.

    Canada, the Netherlands and most of the Nordic countries on the other hand are socialistic, which we are more or less refering to here and none of them seem too bad. I mean except for Finland, it's a shithole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaina View Post
    Socialism puts more people into poverty. The more socialism in the country the more poverty there is.....
    Those poor, starving, wretched bastards in the scandinavian countries suuure do have it worse than the slums of the US.
    Quote Originally Posted by IdolEyes787 View Post
    Ghey lumberjacks, wolverines, blackflies in the summer, polar bears in the winter, that's basically Canada in a nutshell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IdolEyes787 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by shaina View Post
    No system has been more successful at pulling people out of poverty than capitalism. Socialism puts more people into poverty. The more socialism in the country the more poverty there is.....
    Odd thing but none of the supposed socialist countries are actually socialist but more along the line of dictatorships.

    Canada, the Netherlands and most of the Nordic countries on the other hand are socialist, which we are more or less refering to here and none of them seem too bad. I mean except for Finland, it's a shithole.
    Curious how you think Canada is a socialist country?? Do you mean partial?? Full??

    Reading some of the comments on the article, comparing a socialist platform to communist dictatorship, does that make sense??
    Also a question asked is anyone that has a Billion dollars, everything over that should be taxed 100%?? So someones self worth or success should be shut down and penalized for it?? Is that a motivation ?? Or beca
    I mean people used to think a millionaire was unfair?? now that is ok but a Billionaire should be restricted?? What happens when you want to live in a city and a average house cost is a million?? Should socialism kick in and say no that shouldn't happen that an average person can't afford it??
    Or the hard working person with some luck and success should be entitled?? Capitalism??
    If we are a socialist Country here Idol?? Why is there inflation and the cost of living increases?? Why is there no one dictating the cost of food or rent or Gas prices?? In a socialist country do they have casinos or race tracks?? Do they dictate how much you gamble?? Or the local people can't gamble and it is for tourist to have fun, because they live in a Capitalists place and can choose what they do with there income??
    Or do they have lotteries there to give someone hope to become a wealthy person?? Does Socialism allow that?? Or is that for the corrupt and people in power to play because they are allowed to live as a Capitalist and keep there people at the level of living they choose ??
    All interesting how you take a simple word like socialist and how many people define it differently???
    The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money

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    I meant socialistic and made the correction because I'm stupid.

    Anyway US tax rates.

    Historical top federal income tax rates, 1915-2010: 35 percent: The top federal income tax rate for the 2010 taxes due April 15.
    39.6 percent: Top tax rate in 2000.
    31 percent: Top tax rate in 1991.
    50 percent: Top tax rate in 1986.
    70 percent: Top tax rate in 1980.
    91 percent: Top tax rate in 1963.
    84.4 percent: Top tax rate in 1950.
    94 percent: Top tax rate in 1945.

    And immense wealth is usually not a result of hard work as statistically most people with fortunes are born into them. They may add to them but that's not the same as starting with nothing.

    Seriously though and I've already mentioned it, people making this much money aren't really doing it for the money after a certain point so it would not be a burden to use some of that excess to help the country that gave them all that wealth out. Not to mention maybe having some compassion for say all the children that have to go hungry. What's that, no and it's "their" money and fuck everyone else and I'm buying another house I never use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by megabyteme View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by shaina View Post
    Socialism puts more people into poverty. The more socialism in the country the more poverty there is.....
    Those poor, starving, wretched bastards in the scandinavian countries suuure do have it worse than the slums of the US.
    If they starve that is good for us since the probablility of hawt Swedish women being forced into prostitution goes up. Simple economics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdolEyes787 View Post
    Funny you keep knocking only one news station?? Ya i think because of myself
    But using Hanity or Tucker?? They are not news reporters and never say they are, they are guys that look at other news that is reported and make people think if it is true or factual, and that is from all news being reported out there, and sometimes they do have new things to report, but not usually...
    They never call themselves News Reporters, more News Informers ??
    Just as we agreed on the Newsroom show, and too bad when you hear Fox News, or CNN news, or MSNBC news or City TV news, you should be able to watch and see unbiased reporting without an opinion from the person telling you it, and it should be truthful....

    I had my son and girlfriend over last night for dinner , and i brought up the discussions i was having in this site, and his comment was they don't believe any news that is reported on any of theses main stream places or even the radical ones, they look and see what is happening in reality or on the ground if that makes sense??
    And the reasoning?? His girlfriends comment was what has always sold the most?? Tabloid news crap!! How many real news stations have financial interests in some sort or smut or tabloid media?? Most of them, so if they lose money on the real news stations and make large on fake, propaganda, crap!!, time to change how we tell/show/sell the news. To make money!!!! Socialism or Capitalism???
    Then it was hard to explain, ya in a Democracy almost all news media is privately owned or public, not government, so how about places like Russia, Middle East, Asia?? Usually funded and Government controlled right?? Socialist?? How much truth are you going to get or expect out of that?? Or better yet are your Democracy enemies ever going to tell the truth??
    Very interesting how the younger generation think today, and they did also mention they listen to pod casts of things?? Not sure if you do?? (I don't), but to me that sounds like a Hannity cult thing to do
    One actually talked about how corn is so cheap why are corn chips Doritos so expensive to buy?? Well shortening up... Doritos are owned by Pepsi, and because of Trump and the tariffs on China aluminum it is costing more on making the cans so they are loosing money so if they raise the price of colas they will loose more, because of completion but everyone is still going out to buy Doritos, so raising the price had zero effect!!. Yet everyone on the planet knows corn is so cheap!!!!
    Now hearing that you would figure this left wing pod caster would say boycott Doritos right?? Not a chance!!! Ends the pod cast by saying he is now going out to buy and enjoy his Cheesy Doritos . Now a socialist thinking guy feeding Capitalistic thinking?? Hmmmmm...
    And it is too bad the pod caster didn't mention that Pepsi just purchased Soda Stream for Billions (Gee where is that invented and made ).......
    Socialist or Capitalism even in the Middle East .....
    Last edited by shaina; 01-19-2019 at 07:14 PM.
    The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money

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