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    Quote Originally Posted by shaina View Post
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    Fuck that. If I had 800k, I'm hiring an accountant so I don't have to pay tax.
    Again is it not so simple to do that buddy, now if it is business Capital/Income yes you pay less tax, but once you remove it for your personal cost of living you fucking pay or you become a target of IRS audits

    Again that is why you do have to have the concept and understanding on how tax structures work to save or in some cases you could say use the loopholes..

    But don't ever think people can get away from paying taxes buddy, what is that saying the 2 constants are DEATH and TAXES
    I was just making a joke. All my other posts are against greed and selfishness. Those who benefit most from the society should give back proportionally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    Another thing, then:

    You've got your $800K, and guess what?

    You're at the bottom of the barrel, with everyone else - essentially, you're a minimum-wage earner.

    Feel better now?

    Make the minimum wage $15/hr, and all you've done is establish a new floor for the 'poverty' you decry; nothing has changed - only the number has changed.

    The industrious among us will soon move ahead as they always have.
    Fucking Exactly LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!!, but if you are a politician and you make way above the middle class and after your term you receive a pension for the rest of your life, and out there spewing shit that the paid NGO's are giving you large doe!!!!!! what the fuck do you expect!!!

    Tell me Trump was a Billionaire or go crazy a Millionaire before he was the President and has fucking zero to do with politics other than donating to parities!!!!

    Obama was a politician and leaves being president a multi multi millionaire!!!! How???!!!!! Biden and his family the same!!!! How!!!!

    The Lefts wonderful and great powerful Bernie Sanders, has 3 fucking houses!!! yet no comments from his flock!!! Does that make sense....

    Yet no one questions that??!!! How smart are those people voting for them?? The same if Government doesn't pass his agenda what does he care!!!

    Trump fucking did!!!! The economy numbers proved that!!!! Facts matter!!! True facts and results matter!!!

    I have now been saying if Pence was the president and Trump was the one pulling his strings and had duct tape on his mouth !!! They were unbeatable!!!

    Again If's and not reality...

    And i can't repeat this enough guys, someone is going to have to pay for all of this Debt/Deficit!!!!, or the countries status will go down the tubes like every other Socialist Communists country!!!!

    Better think about that!!!!!!!
    The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money

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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
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    I believe the true condensed version of Ayn Rand is, "FUCK EVERYONE ELSE". Shit pseudo-philosophy mostly clung to by people wanting to justify greed and selfishness (a 'virtue').

    Yeah great, you are a 'producer' feeding on the labor, ideas, solutions, sacrifices, and time of everyone who you employ (most likely) using capital from inheritance, government loans/grants, or borrowed money from sources unavailable to the 'common' man.

    Start everyone out on an even playing field and see who 'rises'.
    Ayn Rand took too many pages to communicate that altruism, as a prime directive, fails, and it fails utterly.

    Those with the ideas will always employ others, unless you envision a world where everyone is his/her own boss, in which case I invite you to elucidate.

    As to your last statement, the same people will rise, and the "inheritance class" will be reborn.

    Humans be humans, you see.
    Eric. Fucking. Trump. He would not 'rise' without being lifted every inch.

    The deck is already stacked against most of us the moment we are born. Others get nothing but Aces handed to them.

    You are perpetuating the myth of the self-made man. Wealth does not equal the amount of effort one has made in their life. You are idolizing those who were born with life handed to them.
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    [QUOTE=megabyteme;3834299]
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    I was just making a joke. All my other posts are against greed and selfishness. Those who benefit most from the society should give back proportionally.
    Hey we are on the exact same page and i agree with you 100%

    And they should be disgusted and people should be if they don't, but they should have the right on who and what they give it too!!!!

    Not the Government to control someones hard earned money!!!!, and if the person who made it you would think they have some sense on where the money is needed and benefited to society 1000 times better than Government!!!!!

    New York and California should show the greatest examples both states highest tax rates and they are fucking broke!!!!!!! How!!!!

    Always remember you always have the right not to support someone, that is greedy and not supporting something!!!

    But we are on the same page when it comes to that, but not by force in a Democracy Capitalist country, not if i earned that money buddy

    Always your friend and i hope you feel the same
    The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money

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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    Eric. Fucking. Trump. He would not 'rise' without being lifted every inch.

    The deck is already stacked against most of us the moment we are born. Others get nothing but Aces handed to them.

    You are perpetuating the myth of the self-made man. Wealth does not equal the amount of effort one has made in their life. You are idolizing those who were born with life handed to them.

    So say you are right, it is fucking family Meg, again what is the difference?? Trump inherited tons as well and he still has it...

    You have children Meg, you wouldn't give your last dollar to help them?? I don't understand comments like that other than coming across as jealousy buddy..

    Even if someone brags and you know they got the money from family they still got it right

    If you inherit a Koo Koo Clock from family and it is worth sums of money and you sell it well did you make the money or the person who gave you the clock??


    Loaded question isn't it?? Now you took that money and tripled it!!! well who made the money!!!!

    What happens if you blew it all up your nose or gambled it all away!!!! Who's fault!!!!!

    Loaded questions buddy.....
    The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money

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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    The industrious among us will soon move ahead as they always have.
    So a single parent forced to work three jobs so that her children have a roof over their heads and enough to eat you don't consider "industrious"? Maybe the word you were looking for was "ambitious" although one can be ambitious in many fields that don't effect wealth. Probably all things considered the correct word would be "predatory" as it's hard to "move ahead" without doing it at someone else's expense.
    Respect my lack of authority.

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    If you work and do the best job you can - as everyone should - among people who are not motivated to do the same, what of that, then?

    Have you ever outworked anyone in your life?

    What motivated you to do that?

    Or are you the type who works down to the standard set by others?

    Tell me more, and leave your bitterness out of it.

    Tell me this as well:

    Do I sound more like a boss or a worker-bee right now?
    “Think about how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of 'em are stupider than that.” -George Carlin

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    Let's say you worked your ass off, saved, invested and had the VERYYYY fortunate luck of not having crippling injuries, illnesses, depression, accidents to you or your loved ones. Through this skill, luck, hard work, and economic times that benefited you and your family you have $2-5 million in assets. Nice.

    You are still a minnow in the sea of those born into wealth, influence, power, and connections. Your entire life's work, which was never entirely in your control because the society around you sets the rules for you to live by (where you were born) and timing of your working years (when you were born) requires prosperity around you and amounts to less than others are given at the moment of their birth.

    Oh...and make sure you are 'racially preferred' in this society. You'll want to make sure you 'matter'.

    Alpha af, boss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by megabyteme View Post
    Let's say you worked your ass off, saved, invested and had the VERYYYY fortunate luck of not having crippling injuries, illnesses, depression, accidents to you or your loved ones. Through this skill, luck, hard work, and economic times that benefited you and your family you have $2-5 million in assets. Nice.

    You are still a minnow in the sea of those born into wealth, influence, power, and connections. Your entire life's work, which was never entirely in your control because the society around you sets the rules for you to live by (where you were born) and timing of your working years (when you were born) requires prosperity around you and amounts to less than others are given at the moment of their birth.

    Oh...and make sure you are 'racially preferred' in this society. You'll want to make sure you 'matter'.

    Alpha af, boss.
    Your points are noted buddy, and this is the problem with politics, you need money and influence to win and that money is not even coming from the US, it is outside that wants to buy influence, and the greedy politicians take it and are now under the gun to obey!!!!

    Again we are on the same page Meg on a lot of things but it how we try to get there causes the confusion.....

    A person that has 2-5 million without any debt is in a very good position, but depending where he lives and how he wants to live right....

    You know that there will be someone always richer than you, and the richest sooner or later gets bumped off by someone else. And with those points if you are considered upper middle class, don't try to compete with ones that are richer!! be happy with what you got and try to make it grow, and again don't be jealous of people that do have more..

    You know the saying your health is more important, but having a few bucks does seem to make you feel better and i won't lie about that..

    Really using money for power is very dangerous!!!, and that is the biggest disturbance on politics!!!! That has to stop!!! especially if it is outside country money, and we are talking piles and piles of it, to influence how to control your country!!!!..

    And sometimes society is not setting the rules buddy, jealousy of others is, as well as weak minded people that can be influenced , being happy and loving and protecting your family can be the wealthiest things to have.....

    I have told you i have seen both ways of life, having nothing and then being comfortable Meg, i can't lie and say being comfortable is not a great feeling...

    But i have friends that have 100 times more than i do, and i wish them well, and if they lose it all i will still be there for them with support.....

    And what does race have to do with wealth?? That is political talk to win elections!!!, but in real life does it??

    The saying that there was no African Americans on tv or movies?? Can you point me to one in the last 5 years that doesn't have ??

    Yet if you say it enough people will think it is true!!!!

    And the only person that has to worry who matters is fucking you!!!!!!!When you start to care what others think then you end up like Idol
    Last edited by shaina; 01-17-2021 at 04:44 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdolEyes787 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    The industrious among us will soon move ahead as they always have.
    So a single parent forced to work three jobs so that her children have a roof over their heads and enough to eat you don't consider "industrious"? Maybe the word you were looking for was "ambitious" although one can be ambitious in many fields that don't effect wealth. Probably all things considered the correct word would be "predatory" as it's hard to "move ahead" without doing it at someone else's expense.
    This is a very interesting tv show, but how much of the population do you really think this is happening now??

    It works the same that if have a small population that this is happening do you change the rest to suffer as well?? or do you make them pay to supplement them??

    When you have a party that has gotten more people out of poverty and food stamps, and more prosperous, is there going to still be a few that just don't?? Sure...

    So as J2K4 said "Tell me more, and leave your bitterness out of it" what are your suggestions to fix this problem?? Take more from the rich that did work hard as well to make it??

    Maybe have government loan education to better your self to be more skilled in the work force?? Government should just hand out more money??

    Which door or better you have a suggestion to fix the problem??

    Truthfully you do a lot of complaining Idol, and you do bring up some valid points/problems, but you never and i mean never suggest or ever have a solution to these complaints/issues/problems??

    Be nice to actually see you do that for once
    Last edited by shaina; 01-17-2021 at 04:34 AM.
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