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    Would that I had the inclination to document the wildlife in my yard, these days.

    The only thing that continues to amaze me...
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    Idol, I feel I need to skip to the chase-

    If you weren't born here, if you aren't steeped in the Founding and It's history, you literally cannot understand.

    If you don't buy the idea and how it came to be, you cannot empathize.

    Nothing you can do about that, and I don't have time enough left to educate you - no offense intended.

    G-D Bless you, nonetheless...
    I mean i take your comments and just staying there for a month, you see the difference....

    Being on a Golf Course for four and a half hours and talking to people that have lived in all different states and are American citizens you get educated,,

    Sitting down after Golf and have a few wobbly pops with patriotic Americans you get educated.....

    Going to local restaurants and talking to the owners that were born and are American Citizens you get educated....

    Watching Fox News and seeing RED States vs BLUE states you get educated....

    Watching the rest of the Left Wing Shitbag Fake News Media you see how they hate there Country, yet they don't leave to ones they claim are better!!!!

    Fucking Immigrants trying to get into the country don't seem to want changes because the ones the Left Wing Shitbags spew are so great they are leaving in droves

    The biggest problem in the US is the education system is teaching you to hate history and hate patriotism!!! Facts Matter

    That didn't take that much time to type out J2K4 did it?? And that is just some of the education people can see from a Canadian Citizen

    With a new president and all of his executive orders How did the stock market do today??

    And i will finish by saying G-D bless you as well buddy
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    Would that I had the inclination to document the wildlife in my yard, these days.

    The only thing that continues to amaze me...
    Photos if you have the time
    The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money

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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    Idol, I feel I need to skip to the chase-

    If you weren't born here, if you aren't steeped in the Founding and It's history, you literally cannot understand.

    If you don't buy the idea and how it came to be, you cannot empathize.

    Nothing you can do about that, and I don't have time enough left to educate you - no offense intended.

    God Bless you, nonetheless...
    Stunning level of arrogance there, j2k4. What if I can prove I've own slaves, can I be granted an imagination then?

    Seriously this is partly why the term "ugly American" was a thing. 'Merica though it "imagines" itself otherwise is hardly unique in anything. Other countries have fought wars of independence and created constitutions. Other countries have struggled with racism and classism (both S Africa and England top you there) and bad civil wars (at least you managed to avoid genocide unlike Bosnia or Uganda). Fuck, in in terms of arrogance France has you beat.
    Yes you have the biggest army (not a compliment) and the biggest economy (don't look over your shoulder) and are arguably the biggest melting pot but all those things make you foremost, not unique.
    If you are going for the old but people here bleed bleu, white and red... sorry red, white and blue then you are suggesting no other country engenders patriotic or religious fanaticism and I think our faux Israeli friend or any Iranian may take offense at that.
    PS Even that most American of thing, the cowboy came from Mexico.
    Other countries have musicians, authors and sadly even b-boys.
    I will cede the fact that America probably reluctantly still allows more opportunity than any other place on Earth.

    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    If you weren't born here, if you aren't steeped in the Founding and It's history, you literally cannot understand.


    If you don't buy the idea and how it came to be, you cannot empathize.

    Nice rhetoric. Maybe try to convince the secessionists you apparently voted for to believe it.

    "The Promise of America" . America has always been a dream, never a promise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaina View Post

    My sister told me yesterday that there is an Owl in the park next to her house that is attacking kids and other animals, and no one has called to remove it because they think it is cool to have an owl around
    I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of owls I've seen but years ago I saw one that was as big as a good sized eagle and I'm talking AMC not bird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdolEyes787 View Post
    Stunning level of arrogance there, j2k4. What if I can prove I've own slaves, can I be granted an imagination then?

    Seriously this is partly why the term "ugly American" was a thing. 'Merica though it "imagines" itself otherwise is hardly unique in anything. Other countries have fought wars of independence and created constitutions. Other countries have struggled with racism and classism (both S Africa and England top you there) and bad civil wars (at least you managed to avoid genocide unlike Bosnia or Uganda). Fuck, in in terms of arrogance France has you beat.
    Yes you have the biggest army (not a compliment) and the biggest economy (don't look over your shoulder) and are arguably the biggest melting pot but all those things make you foremost, not unique.
    If you are going for the old but people here bleed bleu, white and red... sorry red, white and blue then you are suggesting no other country engenders patriotic or religious fanaticism and I think our faux Israeli friend or any Iranian may take offense at that.
    PS Even that most American of thing, the cowboy came from Mexico.
    Other countries have musicians, authors and sadly even b-boys.
    I will cede the fact that America probably reluctantly still allows more opportunity than any other place on Earth.

    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    If you weren't born here, if you aren't steeped in the Founding and It's history, you literally cannot understand.


    If you don't buy the idea and how it came to be, you cannot empathize.

    Nice rhetoric. Maybe try to convince the secessionists you apparently voted for to believe it.

    "The Promise of America" . America has always been a dream, never a promise.
    I think what I mean to convey to you is the precise understanding of things American AS an American, which you - rather unfortunately - cannot do, as a Canadian.

    I've had the privilege to hear immigration stories from the mouths of the immigrants themselves - the ones who buy the ideas expressed by the Founders.

    Many of them 'get it' as I mean you would have to in order to understand.

    I'm sure you're comfy where you are, though, and will never get beyond lumping us in with generic revolutionists.

    Btw, America is an more properly considered an aspiration; take the religious point-of-view on that - we are all of us imperfect, yet, as flawed humans, we strive, you see?

    In any case, if we can't brake the current down-slope trend, America will go away - we may live long enough to hear her last gasp.

    Once they toss the Founding Documents (and they want to, make no mistake) it's all over.
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaina View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    Would that I had the inclination to document the wildlife in my yard, these days.

    The only thing that continues to amaze me...
    Photos if you have the time
    As easy as that is, it's not easy.

    I'm in a bit of a rut with that stuff...
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

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    I don't play golf but I don't seem to have any problem understanding what the frustration of missing a 3 foot gimme putt must be like.
    Seriously, mate, countries are only imaginary lines on a map and a whole lot of years of the people in power making you believe it's anything otherwise.

    Immigrants need to believe in the slightly untrue ideal of what America represents. Many times they come from shitty situations so they need the ideal to be fact. Everyone needs to believe there's a light at the end of the tunnel. In this case a shining city on the hill. The propaganda, not the reality is why they are dewy eyed at the prospect. The easiest way to get someone to believe a lie is to tell them one that they wish were true. Half of US voters are my evidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdolEyes787 View Post
    I don't play golf but I don't seem to have any problem understanding what the frustration of missing a 3 foot gimme putt must be like.
    Seriously, mate, countries are only imaginary lines on a map and a whole lot of years of the people in power making you believe it's anything otherwise.

    Immigrants need to believe in the slightly untrue ideal of what America represents. Many times they come from shitty situations so they need the ideal to be fact. Everyone needs to believe there's a light at the end of the tunnel. In this case a shining city on the hill. The propaganda, not the reality is why they are dewy eyed at the prospect. The easiest way to get someone to believe a lie is to tell them one that they wish were true. Half of US voters are my evidence.
    Well i will make my response Meg "PG" instead of rated "R"......


    First off if you did miss the 3 foot putt why would it matter if it was a "gimme", do you see that point of view

    And your other garbage interpretations, usually people leave places to better there lives period, and when you speak to those people or know any of those people maybe you would understand or have a different perspective and the thought of that should be a good thing. And the intentions of going to the better place is to work hard and not expect fucking freebies, and or start corruption, and break the laws....

    And my another point would be put yourself in the other 50% of a country and see if you can understand there points of view, and if you can find some good in there thinking, it only takes a few to move to the other side.. So that will show in 2 years, but til then, there is a divided country be it ours and the US, and actually many countries.. So understanding that, should be the first thing your ignorance doesn't seep out and end up putting your foot in your mouth. The word is out and there is some people that voted for the other guy to see change that was meant to help, but so far that is not the outcome, but i am optimistic and it is early, so you never know looking from the outside...But in the US you get a 4 year chance and then they may be an extension or.......

    And this refers to post #488 and #484, Being Canadian, patriotism is not a big thing, but Americans and i mean even the irony of immigrants that were proud to become American Citizens, do vote for the Republicans, that are hard working people and feel that giving free shit to people just is not the thing to do, or the thought of changing the structure to a place that they left because there was no better chance of bettering there lives....

    I have friends over and i let them read you posts and they seemed to have expressions on there face, and something loud came out of there mouths, you guess what they were So i just slipped away, for a bit to send this to you...

    Have a wonderful night....

    And Let that soak in for a bit.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaina View Post

    And your other garbage interpretations, usually people leave places to better there lives period, and when you speak to those people or know any of those people maybe you would understand or have a different perspective and the thought of that should be a good thing. And the intentions of going to the better place is to work hard and not expect fucking freebies, and or start corruption, and break the laws....
    So basically you're saying that everything Trump said to inflame his base was a lie. Now if we could only get Lindsey Graham to admit to it. Also why would anyone want to work hard when they can just manipulate the stock market? Geez,Pedro, use your brain or something.
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