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    I believe that your average police officer isn't worse than anyone else who's been placed in a position of extreme authority that historically has had very little consequence to any misdeeds.
    I mean like put me in charge of the candy store and tell me that nothing is going to happen if I steal stuff and then expect there are still going to be the same amount of Mars bars come morning?
    Respect my lack of authority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaina View Post
    Why would you have too!!!, Do they not have social workers now on payroll Budget??!!! I can tell you they do here!!! Government paid social workers jobs that has always existed!!! And yes they do house calls now as well!!!! They don't need more fucking money!!! They need to be allocated to the job!!!
    It's really great to see how a four-weeks-in-Florida-every-year part-time resident of this great nation is so well informed about real everyday life in states that he has probably not set foot in in a long time (if ever).

    I mean, what do people living here year-round know about it without making shit up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caballero View Post
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    Hey listen i think you are right, and if both of us were in charge, in that situation maybe sending both social services and police for backup right
    Gosh, if only anyone had ever come up with that idea before. I mean, wouldn't it be great if we could take part of the police budget and give it to social services, for example, so that they have the resources to take care of situations like this while the police can focus on fighting crime and other activities they are actually trained for?
    Just to quickly male this point:

    Who, precisely, is this "we" you speak of?

    Think carefully before you answer.

    Also, while I'm thinking about it - what has, generally-speaking, spoiled anything "green" is the fact none of it happens unless it is subsidized by the government, and on the odd occasion where "private" money is invested, it happens in direct confluence with...well, look no further than Elon Musk.

    My larger intent is to indicate just how afflicted humans are to their baser instincts.
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by IdolEyes787 View Post
    I believe that your average police officer isn't worse than anyone else who's been placed in a position of extreme authority that historically has had very little consequence to any misdeeds.
    I mean like put me in charge of the candy store and tell me that nothing is going to happen if I steal stuff and then expect there are still going to be the same amount of Mars bars come morning?
    Well if i was the one that owns the store Idol and i asked/hired you to watch it, and you did take Mars bars, i would think you be honest and tell me you took them or better yet paid for them no??

    The same with law enforcement, you do see/hear times where there has bee corrupt cops doing some sort of scam or illegal thing, and yes they should pay the consequences, but the problem is the Media just hammers a narrative out to fit the people they sponsor causes!!!!..
    Now the Fake News Media picks that up and broadcasts it to even a bigger audience !!!! And puts the spin for the side that is paying them to do it!!!!

    Idol that is not reporting news objectively right......

    There is going to be bad people in everything , and most of the time it is in there nature!!! And if it slipped through the people that hired the bad apple, well hopefully that person is removed before anything serious happens!!!

    But again you have to be very careful today!!! Especially with media period, there is one side and then the other side, and in the middle there is the truth!!!!

    The first "FACT CHECK" us usually proven false after the next few days right...
    The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caballero View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by shaina View Post
    Why would you have too!!!, Do they not have social workers now on payroll Budget??!!! I can tell you they do here!!! Government paid social workers jobs that has always existed!!! And yes they do house calls now as well!!!! They don't need more fucking money!!! They need to be allocated to the job!!!
    It's really great to see how a four-weeks-in-Florida-every-year part-time resident of this great nation is so well informed about real everyday life in states that he has probably not set foot in in a long time (if ever).

    I mean, what do people living here year-round know about it without making shit up?

    Are you calling me a liar buddy?? Be fucking careful here!! If i speak to you because i have been going to Florida for over 35 years and i can guarantee i have spoken to way more fucking people than you ever have about a Country that how long have you lived in by the way???!!!

    Like i said be careful what you say, you want to dispute what i am saying fine but i get the information from Actual Americans that live or lived all over!!! Where have you lived or moved in the US?? Have you ever lived in New York?? California?? Georgia?? Philadelphia? Chicago? Pennsylvania? And many many fucking more...Just think if there is a state that gets fucking snow there are people that head south!!!!
    Ranging from Blue Collar workers to owning there own business, and i fucking speak to them all the fucking time!!! And they would laugh at the shit you spew!!! They don't give two shits about the Green shit other then the ones that go in there pocket to provide for themselves and there families period!!!!
    And a group of them are retired Police and Firemen and happen to be African American!!! I spoke about this group a long time ago on this site!!!
    And all have fucking Health Care and not fucking one of them complains how much they pay or there employer pays.......



    The Condo i stay at in Florida has 6 buildings with each 8 floors surrounded by water and a golf course, it is owned and left empty unless a family member wants to use it, and it was paid for in full the day it was purchased!!! Do you know why smart guy!!! Because a Fucking Canadian can't get a mortgage through an American Bank!!! No matter if they have millions in a account or not!!!! Did you ever learn that......

    Now i haven't been to Florida for a few years because my wife has been sick, but my fucking Mother In law spends 3 months plus every fucking year except this one .And every night my mother in law speaks to her daughter when she is there, there is a different person that sends there regards to me if i haven't spoken to them........

    So until you have traveled the actual country you fucking live in and actually speak to others and how they feel, well ......

    Now again you may not like my answers, but i can tell you without a doubt there is a lot of people that do, and they are fucking patriotic Americans !!!!

    You have this fascination that every state thinks like you do LOL!!! And what is even funnier is the state you do live in, the majority don't think like you do LOL!!!!

    So it is funny do you really live in the state you speak about or are you making things up as you go along???

    So again i will repeat and even know you tried to insult me and call me a liar.....

    Stick with your Green shit idea and i am glad for you, but until you realize that your bullshit doesn't work on people that have common economic sense.....

    So until your Green project proves to be sustainable and repeat have the jobs for patriotic Americans that want to work to provide for there families!!!

    And not make China rich!!!!!

    And yes as long as your fucking state has food stamps and welfare , funded senior nurse care, not to mention government run child care services etc, Cabby, they fucking have state funded/paid social workers!!! Think about that smart guy


    Keep up the good work and as always wish you and your family health and happiness

    And thank G-D you are fucking lucky you live in a state that isn't fucking locked down and suffering!!!!

    Talk to those people and see what they have to say to you
    Last edited by shaina; 02-04-2021 at 01:40 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Caballero View Post

    Gosh, if only anyone had ever come up with that idea before. I mean, wouldn't it be great if we could take part of the police budget and give it to social services, for example, so that they have the resources to take care of situations like this while the police can focus on fighting crime and other activities they are actually trained for?
    Just to quickly male this point:
    Who, precisely, is this "we" you speak of?
    Think carefully before you answer.
    Also, while I'm thinking about it - what has, generally-speaking, spoiled anything "green" is the fact none of it happens unless it is subsidized by the government, and on the odd occasion where "private" money is invested, it happens in direct confluence with...well, look no further than Elon Musk.
    My larger intent is to indicate just how afflicted humans are to their baser instincts.
    I can tell you when people talk the way Cabby does, he thinks patriotic Americans are stupid and really doesn't understand the meaning.......

    I look at things like this, there is dumb people on the far left and there is dumb people on the far right, then there is the actual patriotic population in America that wants to support there community and grow.....Some will be rich and some will be middle class, but i am not sure if some people understand how a economics work and when a country has a low unemployment rate it usually is prosperous, not taking jobs and making other countries rich to succeed in something that won't matter if people are out of work!!!!!

    And really and truly most and i mean most projects that the Government funds/controls when it comes to environmental shit ends up either embezzled or bankrupt, now you mention a private investor watching, then maybe you got a shot!!!

    Now i could say that watching what is going on now, and seeing that Sleepy Joe is not sending any of his bullshit agenda to the senate to see if any of it really had a chance of passing instead of tons and tons of executive orders, more than how many Presidents before him combined....

    So that question is do the majority of the Americans really agree with all he is doing?? Yes they voted Sleepy Joe in because he was supposed to bring the country together and be for the Majority Moderate Americans!!!...To me that means the Middle no??
    I assume you are an American living there your whole life J2K4, do you see that happening so far?? And do you live in a Republican run state?? And open state?? And not locked down??

    I mean i do speak to many Americans and the same i am in the truck with my friend occasionally, and he speaks to Americans everywhere, and they are Turf Management people, and some really hated Trump with a passion!!! But had no choice but to vote for him because of the Alternative, and some states the guys did vote Democrats.....

    But they were not expecting what Sleepy Joe is doing!!!!

    So my question again is... Where you live in the US what do you think and how is it where you are??

    I know Cabby is great and fucking lucky where he is living!!! But hey it is all so bad and the suffering is unbearable right

    That is what everyone in Florida i am speaking to are saying, especially some of them that left fucking lock downs and are now free from that shit!!!

    I am also wondering if the schools are open?? Or are the kids suffering and learning fuck all on looking at a screen at home?? I know the private schools are open
    Last edited by shaina; 02-04-2021 at 01:49 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Caballero View Post

    Gosh, if only anyone had ever come up with that idea before. I mean, wouldn't it be great if we could take part of the police budget and give it to social services, for example, so that they have the resources to take care of situations like this while the police can focus on fighting crime and other activities they are actually trained for?
    Just to quickly male this point:

    Who, precisely, is this "we" you speak of?
    Society in general.

    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    Think carefully before you answer.
    Don't have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caballero View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post

    Just to quickly male this point:

    Who, precisely, is this "we" you speak of?
    Society in general..
    What society you, yourself and I

    While you are at it i think America should de-fund the Military as well, it is a waste of money and America doesn't need it

    Look at all the money you would have for windmills and solar panels, but hey your country name will change from America to Communist China

    And then Canada would be next because America protects our ass even know they take food out of Canadians mouths........
    The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money

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    Here is the Irony of Cabby and the American person in charge of it.........

    Republicans hammer John Kerry for taking private plane to accept environmental award
    Sen. Bill Cassidy, R-La. notes Kerry is 'trying to put the workers who supply your fuel out of a job'


    Have they invented any windmill planes or ones that work with solar panels yet?? Doesn't matter i think we should scrap all planes now and the same with Cruise boats!!! Hey it will only take maybe 50 years until there is an alternative, but i suppose we can climb on Forests Gumps back and he could jog us around the country, or maybe borrow one of Idols bicycles and just postpone meetings for a few weeks or months it will take to get to places....

    Several Republican lawmakers ripped Biden administration climate czar John Kerry on Wednesday after Fox News reported the former secretary of state flew on a private jet in 2019 to accept an award for climate leadership in Iceland.

    Kerry flew private to accept the Arctic Circle award for bring "a consistent voice pressuring the American authorities to commit to tackle environmental matters," Icelandic outlet RUV reported. GOP critics argued Kerry’s actions did not match his words on the subject of climate change.


    Ya this is not bullshit and people in POWER can always have separate rules right... What a fucking joke!!!!!

    And de-fund the police so the public are less safe ,and all the Shitbag rich Democrats can have there private security to protect them paid by who!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaina View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Caballero View Post

    It's really great to see how a four-weeks-in-Florida-every-year part-time resident of this great nation is so well informed about real everyday life in states that he has probably not set foot in in a long time (if ever).

    I mean, what do people living here year-round know about it without making shit up?

    Are you calling me a liar buddy?? Be fucking careful here!! If i speak to you because i have been going to Florida for over 35 years and i can guarantee i have spoken to way more fucking people than you ever have about a Country that how long have you lived in by the way???!!!
    Dude, chill. Nobody called you a liar. But to pick up an earlier theme: you don't live here, you don't experience non-vacation real life here, and while you have your opinions based on whatever facts you think you know, I can heavily discount those because I actually have to deal with the real world here on a daily basis. Just like you can heavily discount anything I'm telling you about how life in Canada really is (in case you haven't noticed: I don't do that).

    So 35 years at 4 weeks a pop? Great. So I still got 12 times as much time in-country as you. What other non-productive pissing contest do you want to get into?

    Oh, this one?

    Where have you lived or moved in the US?? Have you ever lived in New York?? California?? Georgia?? Philadelphia? Chicago? Pennsylvania?
    No. Yes. Almost next door. No. Yes. Yes. What's your point again?

    It's great that you are talking to all these retirees that surely had great union contracts (hello police and firemen!) that takes care of their medical needs in retirement, and that is paid for by the taxpayer. Now, do you think that is typical for the rest of the country? Today? And someone working at or just above minimum wage without any meaningful benefits, or someone who is unemployed, do you really think they can afford and will have the same easy access to health insurance or health care in general as your retired friends with government pensions? I can tell you that an unsubsidized health insurance policy that is actually worth having (as opposed to plans that barely cover the minimums) very easily costs $1,800 per month for a family. Great if you have the income or savings to afford that. Sucks if you are unemployed and don't.

    Oh, and what was it you said a while back? You'd love to move to the US if you could afford health care down here? So what is it?


    You have this fascination that every state thinks like you do LOL!!! And what is even funnier is the state you do live in, the majority don't think like you do LOL!!!!
    Oh, I know that there are different opinions and I have absolutely no problem with that. Personally I prefer to base my opinion on facts and numbers and I am happy to debate those any day. I do have problems when those opinions are based on rabid propaganda without a shred of critical thought, though. It sure would help if you actually read what I wrote about the economics of alternative energy and the cost advantage of solar vs. fossil fuels in electricity production today.

    Oh, and since you are so sure to know what the majority of Texans think about "this green shit" as you call it:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/uhenerg...h=319294ae6b7c

    But I have no illusion that you would click on that link and actually look at the numbers. It's great that you have your opinion about what everyone else thinks, particularly in a state that you do not live in. Oh, don't forget to read that last paragraph, the one about responses from the survey reflecting a convergence of public opinion in Texas with the rest of the nation.


    So it is funny do you really live in the state you speak about or are you making things up as you go along???
    Now who is calling whom a liar...? No, no need to answer that. I'm out of this "conversation" before either one of us says something that we might really regret.
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