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    I have a poetry slam tomorrow at school. The assingment is to choose a poem, give background on the authour, read the poem aloud in front of the class, and say what the poem symbolizes/means. Well I choose the poem and found out about the author. Could you please find out what the poem symbolizes/means
    heres the poem

    SONNET XXIX

    When, in disgrace with Fortune and men's eyes,
    I all alone beweep my outcast state,
    And trouble deaf heaven with my bootless cries,
    And look upon myself, and curse my fate,
    Wishing me like to one more rich in hope,
    Featured like him, like him with friends possess'd,
    Desiring this man's art, and that man's scope,
    With what I most enjoy contented least;
    Yet in these thoughts myself almost despising,
    Haply I think on thee, and then my state,
    (Like to the lark at break of day arising)
    From sullen earth, sings hymns and Heaven's gate;
    For thy sweet love remember'd such wealth brings
    That then I scorn to change my state with Kings.

    William Shakespeare

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    Originally posted by xbballplaya223x@9 December 2003 - 00:36
    I have a poetry slam tomorrow at school. The assingment is to choose a poem, give background on the authour, read the poem aloud in front of the class, and say what the poem symbolizes/means. Well I choose the poem and found out about the author. Could you please find out what the poem symbolizes/means
    heres the poem

    SONNET XXIX

    When, in disgrace with Fortune and men's eyes,
    I all alone beweep my outcast state,
    And trouble deaf heaven with my bootless cries,
    And look upon myself, and curse my fate,
    Wishing me like to one more rich in hope,
    Featured like him, like him with friends possess'd,
    Desiring this man's art, and that man's scope,
    With what I most enjoy contented least;
    Yet in these thoughts myself almost despising,
    Haply I think on thee, and then my state,
    (Like to the lark at break of day arising)
    From sullen earth, sings hymns and Heaven's gate;
    For thy sweet love remember'd such wealth brings
    That then I scorn to change my state with Kings.

    William Shakespeare
    I think it's referring to plagiarism!

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    No! You have to choose a "FAMOUS POEM" and write about it. how is that plagerisim

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    Originally posted by xbballplaya223x@9 December 2003 - 00:44
    No! You have to choose a "FAMOUS POEM" and write about it. how is that plagerisim
    I was referring to the symbolism.

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    forget the shakesphere one and help me find out what this poem means/symbolizes

    SILVER

    Slowly, silently, now the moon
    Walks the night in her silver shoon;
    This way, and that, she peers, and sees
    Silver fruit upon silver trees;
    One by one the casements catch
    Her beams beneath the silvery thatch;
    Couched in his kennel, like a log,
    With paws of silver sleeps the dog;
    From their shadowy cope the white beats peep
    Of doves in a silver-feathered sleep;
    A harvest mouse goes scampering by,
    With silver claws and a silver eye;
    And moveless fish in the water gleam,
    By silver reeds in a silver stream.

    Walter De La Mare

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    Originally posted by nigel123+9 December 2003 - 00:45--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (nigel123 @ 9 December 2003 - 00:45)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-xbballplaya223x@9 December 2003 - 00:44
    No&#33; You have to choose a "FAMOUS POEM" and write about it. how is that plagerisim
    I was referring to the symbolism. [/b][/quote]
    lol sorry help me interperate the other poem by walter de la mare

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    Originally posted by xbballplaya223x@9 December 2003 - 00:46
    forget the shakesphere one and help me find out what this poem means/symbolizes

    SILVER

    Slowly, silently, now the moon
    Walks the night in her silver shoon;
    This way, and that, she peers, and sees
    Silver fruit upon silver trees;
    One by one the casements catch
    Her beams beneath the silvery thatch;
    Couched in his kennel, like a log,
    With paws of silver sleeps the dog;
    From their shadowy cope the white beats peep
    Of doves in a silver-feathered sleep;
    A harvest mouse goes scampering by,
    With silver claws and a silver eye;
    And moveless fish in the water gleam,
    By silver reeds in a silver stream.
    To be honest poems are beyond my capacity...but you could ask J&#39;Pol, he is a poet... a warrior poet.

    edit: I do like your avatar, by the way...

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    Originally posted by nigel123+9 December 2003 - 01:41--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (nigel123 @ 9 December 2003 - 01:41)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-xbballplaya223x@9 December 2003 - 00:36
    I have a poetry slam tomorrow at school. The assingment is to choose a poem, give background on the authour, read the poem aloud in front of the class, and say what the poem symbolizes/means.&nbsp; Well I choose the poem and found out about the author. Could you please find out what the poem symbolizes/means
    heres the poem

    SONNET XXIX

    When, in disgrace with Fortune and men&#39;s eyes,
    I all alone beweep my outcast state,
    And trouble deaf heaven with my bootless cries,
    And look upon myself, and curse my fate,
    Wishing me like to one more rich in hope,
    Featured like him, like him with friends possess&#39;d,
    Desiring this man&#39;s art, and that man&#39;s scope,
    With what I most enjoy contented least;
    Yet in these thoughts myself almost despising,
    Haply I think on thee, and then my state,
    (Like to the lark at break of day arising)
    From sullen earth, sings hymns and Heaven&#39;s gate;
    For thy sweet love remember&#39;d such wealth brings
    That then I scorn to change my state with Kings.

    William Shakespeare
    I think it&#39;s referring to plagiarism&#33; [/b][/quote]


    Really laughing out loud nigel. Thanks for that.

    "interperate" it yourself, you&#39;re the one who writes extended metaphor poetry, nob.

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    It&#39;s basically about how everything loses its colour (or rather the colours can&#39;t be seen) and what can be seen appears silver when bathed in moonlight.
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    Political correctness is based on the principle that it's possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

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    Originally posted by xbballplaya223x@9 December 2003 - 01:36
    My take

    SONNET XXIX

    When, in disgrace with Fortune and men&#39;s eyes,
    When I am down on my luck and looked down upon by others

    I all alone beweep my outcast state,
    I wallow alone in self pity

    And trouble deaf heaven with my bootless cries,
    And pray for help to a God who is not listening

    And look upon myself, and curse my fate,
    Wishing me like to one more rich in hope,
    Featured like him, like him with friends possess&#39;d,
    Desiring this man&#39;s art, and that man&#39;s scope,
    I feel sorry for myself and desire what others have

    With what I most enjoy contented least;
    Yet in these thoughts myself almost despising,
    no clue

    Haply I think on thee, and then my state,
    (Like to the lark at break of day arising)
    From sullen earth, sings hymns and Heaven&#39;s gate;
    For thy sweet love remember&#39;d such wealth brings
    That then I scorn to change my state with Kings.
    Then I think of you, my beloved, and remember how fortunate I am

    William Shakespeare

    The overall gist is that when he is feeling low he thinks of the woman he loves and is restored.

    Tell your teacher that the author of the sonnet was sucking up to his wife because he wanted a little pussy.
    Aren't we in the trust tree, thingey?

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