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[p2p]

One thing u have to understand about most muslims (not those converting to Islam at later ages)
The muslims are very religious, deeply suspicious of other religions (not only the west but chinese, indian whatever) Most muslims were born to the religion Islam from birth and expected to follow it until death
The Christans, Chinese, Indians can sometimes take a dig and laugh at their Gods and religions but never the Muslims.
So u have someone like Bin-Mountain and others taking advantage of the anti-west feelings by saying the world is against Islam that made some muslims turn extreme.

U can't really blame the Israels for acting badly at times when they are surrounded by enemies on all sides... Better to strike first, be the bad guy then be hurt.

read this
http://www.masada2000.org/historical.html
from a Israel bias but seem to make sense
and I would like to hear the other side of the story

[noname12]

Originally posted by p2p@30 December 2003 - 09:25
One thing u have to understand about most muslims (not those converting to Islam at later ages)
The muslims are very religious, deeply suspicious of other religions (not only the west but chinese, indian whatever) Most muslims were born to the religion Islam from birth and expected to follow it until death
The Christans, Chinese, Indians can sometimes take a dig and laugh at their Gods and religions but never the Muslims.
So u have someone like Bin-Mountain and others taking advantage of the anti-west feelings by saying the world is against Islam that made some muslims turn extreme.

U can't really blame the Israels for acting badly at times when they are surrounded by enemies on all sides... Better to strike first, be the bad guy then be hurt.

read this
http://www.masada2000.org/historical.html
from a Israel bias but seem to make sense
and I would like to hear the other side of the story

Actually, you are incorrect, the Muslims promote openess with the other 2 major religions because they consider them to be the closest things to ally's they can get.
Suspicion actually always has been with the west and the rise of signs to show it follow's the way's of the prophesised anti-christ. Suspicioun has never been towards the other religions.

Secondly you justify the acts of the Israeli military for them being surrounded by enemies, and the same can be said for Palestine where they are easely out gunned and have no means of fighting a war whereas Israel has the backing of America and most of europe, state of the art military technology and US bases left right and centre.

There all in the same boat, rather then trying to excuse any of the sides, it would be better they just tried to sit down and talk, if we continue to just look at who's fault it is it will never end, if we try to just sit down and look for a peaceful way to end things then it can end in 6 months.

Both sides will have to make sacrifices, Israel must stop its settlements and hard handed ways, plus hand over the Olive farms back to the Palestinians and the Palestinians must agree to hand in any arms to the law, and share Al-Quds plus must recognize Israel as a country and respect its borders set out by the UN or any border agreed later.

We can all sit here and throw blame at each side from now until the end of time which will never solve a problem just as Arafat and Sharon have displayed, or we can try and vote in a peaceful government on both sides and talk.

Simple as that.

[<TROUBLE^MAKER>]

Those Muslims sure are open when it comes to Mecca alright, there&#39;s nothing like sharing your holy sights with the other religions of the world to visit and view.