Any Chemists Here? Know One?please Come On In!

[DWk]

Ha! Man, it is still a good idea. You could find out who owns the patent and talk to them. Maybe they havent got out the product because they don't know how to actually finish it. Maybe you can help them finish

Try!

[james_bond_rulez]

Originally posted by SciManAl@5 January 2004 - 17:44
Hello,


Some good news for the problem on AMD over clocking and how to get rid of the heat... OK as I stated at an earlier date (sometime last year ) I have started developing a silent Heat pipe cooling system that will cool all components in the computer so that there is no longer a need for fans at all... Now after all this time I am very close, at this point I only need too change liquids to make it more stable. Up to this point I have successfully tested a heat pipe system that uses no fans etc, and generates no noise. Its big flaw however was that the method of which a heat pipe works is that the hot water evaporates takes the heat with it, and dumps it off elsewhere... a very efficient method on paper, it has been hard to use effectively due to a lack of liquids with a boiling temperature that is optimal... (optimal being a variable that is different for every set up ) now the problem now that I have given some background is this, Before I have been using water in a decompressed atmosphere, causing the boiling point to lower this also does give the system some inherent difficulties which might be ok if one was never to unhook a hose ever... (the seals are that bad and every time one unhooks a hose they get looser) and so I have come to a crossroads, either use water, which has been having problems with part II of this experiment (described later) or choose to change to a chemical alternative that has a boiling point of about 20-30 degrees centigrade, will not freeze (or can be blended with things that can't) and can hold some heat.

Part II of the problem titled: playing with liquid nitrogen can be a health hazard...

Okay I have this wonderful system now with a chemical alternative that can evaporate when it gets "hot" and a nice flow, now something has to cool down all this vapor coming up the tubes... this is where my buddy liquid nitrogen comes in. I took a block of copper, (the machine shops mill can only handle copper or aluminum, it is not heavy duty enough... but then I have no complaints with copper) and machined some tube paths inside, then took stainless steel tubing (to help counteract the effects of liquid nitrogen. and fitted them together with a rubber seal to cover the gap between the blocks (much like the piece between the top part of an engine block and the bottom part, mainly to keep the real hard cold inside... make the cold have to migrate to the outside... ) this block was capped of with a pressure valve and to the bottom I hooked about 20 ram heat sinks that would add surface to the block... at this point I have made an incredibly cold (-20 centigrade) block of metal that stays cold always and made that the top of the tank/condensing chamber and that would be what would take 30 max centigrade liquids and turn them freezing in seconds... (The water would in test runs out of computer freeze... so I added a bit of antifreeze... it wasn't optimal, but it worked...) this was a dream come true, completely silent... extreme cooling... in the computer runs came out with temps as low as 3-10 degrees centigrade with over clock... (Idle and load) very nice overall... not bad looking... any need for fans...

Now I still have a problem, I need to get the max out of this system... I need to get a better liquid to put in the pipes. I have hit Google but haven’t found anything... I was hoping for a really good chemist was lying around... I would also like a somewhat more personal response than the WebPages give, although they are always helpful so send the links if you find them. Umm well I think that is it... I would include links but it isn’t that glamorous, just the results... it is completely metal construction help together with bolts and rubber grommets, with the exception of some tubing... but to give it any measurement at all would be hard... it cools the following components:
CPU
PSU
Harddrive
Northbridge
Grapghics card
And last but defiantly least!!
Ram

hehehehehehehe


Okay well I have my success, the thing still weighs too much for you LAN game players... it weighs in at about 20 pounds no joke... one heavy bitch...

Okay then let the responses come in thanks guys!! Inspiration is easy too find in the place thanks!!
Wow I bet that is the best thing I have ever written on this forum before; I dare you to find a misspelled word…

right... and if i help u i get 50% profit? lol right....

[SciManAl]

right... and if i help u i get 50% profit? lol right....

actually if you were to produce based on my cads, then i think it work best since we live apart to use the franchise system... i don't know... you make profit, give me a small bit off the top... i sel some get all profit etc... but no more like you would make an actual 30 percent per unit... for you, i would get 10 and the rest would be production costs... just need some good metalworkers that can also do the little stuff... ie circut boards (i could also makes those i guess though and ship them out...

[SciManAl]

and if you helped that would be consulting,pay would be considerd based on your qaulifacations..., but i have that mainly done... Thanks anyway

hmm...

[Spicker]

ummm do i still get one for free

[SciManAl]

hmm like stated earlier.. if you build it yourself then yes well materials cost.. but you could make one yourself.. I am ready to make and sell some for here at minimal prices... umm no not FREE, but cheaper...

[james_bond_rulez]

not just production costs you have to go against the industry already in market

u think it's easy to sell? lol nah

[SciManAl]

be prepaird to pay 250-300 US for the system... it is worth it though..one won't need to pay for anything else i think in some time...

It would be a great small effiecent system for the Overclocker in all of us...

[james_bond_rulez]

i can pay for a similar water cooling system half that, 175 Canadian dollars

hahaha

[SciManAl]

, but does that system run silent?? does it offer the extreme cooling options?? does it allow for complete system cooling?? does it use a single fan?? thought so... lol hehehehhee

no matter what you say i can show you reults that are better
...

also the cooler used in that set up is not that great... i have one for my bros comp... it can barely cool his OCed 2000+ it is only 40c... mine would cool to somewhere between 5c and 20 c... andd for 8 componets... so... hmm...