The Deffinition Of Murder

[I_DONT_SHARE_PORN]

Here in Texas we dont tolerate psycho murders so we Lethal inject those bastards.

[Skillian]

Here in Texas we dont tolerate psycho murders so we Lethal inject those bastards.

Yes. Many, many more than any other state.

[Rat Faced]

Originally posted by I_DONT_SHARE_PORN@9 March 2003 - 19:50
Here in Texas we dont tolerate psycho murders so we Lethal inject those bastards.

I think the message is:

1/ What about the minors and

2/ What about the innocents.


You obviously dont inject ALL the Psycho's....you didnt get George W Bush...

[Ron]

Originally posted by Rat Faced+9 March 2003 - 21:36--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Rat Faced @ 9 March 2003 - 21:36)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--I_DONT_SHARE_PORN@9 March 2003 - 19:50
Here in Texas we dont tolerate psycho murders so we Lethal inject those bastards.

You obviously dont inject ALL the Psycho&#39;s....you didnt get George W Bush... [/b][/quote]
As the French say: "Touché&#33;".

[Zardoz]

And what about the case of a man deemed to be insane who was drugged into a state of some sanity so the state could "legally" execute him.

@Spindulik

Elaborate a little more for accurate feedback from the rest of the lounge members..

All the elaboration you could need is Here
if you read the string then you would have found Amnesty International earlier

In the meantime, I am sure that some bible enthuasiasts here can direct you to a quote in the bible, that "you shall be judge by your peers", is basically saying that if you screw up in your community, based on the community&#39;s laws, you&#39;ll be punished accordingly. Even if capital punishment is deemed as the community&#39;s law.

And thats my whole point a community standard so barbaric as to "Murder" it&#39;s children
should look at what it condones before condemning terrorism.

@RPerry

Zardoz, the bible says, " the wages of sin is death". Now, would you like to take the mitigating circumstances that someone died that you might live, or just accept that you are condemned?

Seriously, there are many things in this world that are wrong. Everyday, laws are passed to help things get a little better. Then without fail, something happens and we all take two steps backwards. Finger pointing serves no purpose, we are equally flawed. My motto in life is to treat others how you would like to be treated yourself. If we all could do this all the time, the world would be a much better place

Also any eye for an eye and other bibly quotes, All Contradictory.
but as you say let punnishment be fair and just.

[Spindulik]

Originally posted by Ron@10 March 2003 - 01:02
As the French say: "Touché&#33;".

..as the French say
[*]Help me (in WWII), and I&#39;ll stab you in the back today[*]I surrender[*]Who me, no way.[*]I&#39;ll wait until my butt is in serious trouble[*]Okay, as long as you don&#39;t hurt me.

[Zardoz]

Originally posted by Spindulik+11 March 2003 - 15:08--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Spindulik @ 11 March 2003 - 15:08)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Ron@10 March 2003 - 01:02
As the French say: "Touché&#33;".

..as the French say
[*]Help me (in WWII), and I&#39;ll stab you in the back today[*]I surrender[*]Who me, no way.[*]I&#39;ll wait until my butt is in serious trouble[*]Okay, as long as you don&#39;t hurt me. [/b][/quote]
You really should keep it shut and then we could only speculate about your stupidity

[Spindulik]

Originally posted by Zardoz+11 March 2003 - 16:17--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Zardoz @ 11 March 2003 - 16:17)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by -Spindulik@11 March 2003 - 15:08
<!--QuoteBegin--Ron

@10 March 2003 - 01:02
As the French say: "Touché&#33;".

..as the French say
[*]Help me (in WWII), and I&#39;ll stab you in the back today[*]I surrender[*]Who me, no way.[*]I&#39;ll wait until my butt is in serious trouble[*]Okay, as long as you don&#39;t hurt me.

You really should keep it shut and then we could only speculate about your stupidity[/b][/quote]
My apologies for the sarcastic statements. I was going to delete it, but I believe that I must "eat it with shame", so everyone here can see what I posted.

Although, a lot of U.S. citizens have a dim view on France, they are only educated by the media presented to them. Please excuse them.

Please read this link&#33; Issue One: France and the United States

[j2k4]

Wow-talk about a hot button issue&#33;
Lemme throw out a few thoughts:
Skillian-lots of good points, but I find most, if not all, law to be at least rooted in religion, it being probably the first and most effectively unifying force.
Zardoz-any country, any system is fraught with contradictions and quandaries re: it&#39;s legal system-one of the reasons ours is so seemingly incomprehensible (even to us) is that it has been folded, spindled and mutilated by activist legislation so that actual execution is the exception rather than the rule-it currently takes 11-12 years for a death-row inmate to exhaust all the appeals available, and remember, that statistic is the result of only those who actually ARE executed. There are many more who never will be, and so don&#39;t figure into the statistic. In the dark corners of the topic, yes, there are some questionable executions. But what, then, are we to do with those who are undeniably guilty? Contrary to the beliefs of some, they constitute the bulk of death-row inmates.
Some denigrate the death penalty and those who preach it with faulty reasoning along the lines of "How can you be for the death penalty and against abortion?". Let me tell you how, in what I hope is a coherent fashion:
I have yet to see a statistic ( and boy, do we love them) that would indicate how many people do NOT commit murder because of the existence of the death penalty? There is no way to quantify it.
I ask the same question in reverse of our country&#39;s liberal faction: "How can you be for abortion and against the death penalty?" They reply "What if you execute an innocent person?" I would reply "A fetus is quintessentilly innocent; it is the epitome of innocence-how can you abort (murder) it?" Rhetoric and semantics serve only to confuse the issue further. I don&#39;t think I&#39;ve ever seen a "True Believer" of either stripe change his mind; I have debated the point with anti-death-penalty types who wanted to kill me before the the debate was over, though-
I do hope you and your fiancee will re-consider about America-you&#39;re obviously putting more thought into the question than 99% of the rest of the people who come here.

[Zardoz]

Originally posted by Spindulik+11 March 2003 - 16:12--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Spindulik @ 11 March 2003 - 16:12)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by -Zardoz@11 March 2003 - 16:17

Originally posted by -Spindulik@11 March 2003 - 15:08
<!--QuoteBegin--Ron

@10 March 2003 - 01:02
As the French say: "Touché&#33;".

..as the French say
[*]Help me (in WWII), and I&#39;ll stab you in the back today[*]I surrender[*]Who me, no way.[*]I&#39;ll wait until my butt is in serious trouble[*]Okay, as long as you don&#39;t hurt me.

You really should keep it shut and then we could only speculate about your stupidity

My apologies for the sarcastic statements. I was going to delete it, but I believe that I must "eat it with shame", so everyone here can see what I posted.

Although, a lot of U.S. citizens have a dim view on France, they are only educated by the media presented to them. Please excuse them.

Please read this link&#33; Issue One: France and the United States [/b][/quote]
Thank you for your honesty

Like you say we are all manipulated by propoganda

I appologise for the insult

Noone can comment on the bravery of france in WW2 only american bullying
remember anyone who speaks out against Bush&#39;s bullying is a "traitor" so much for the lanf of the FREE

I have read the topic you linked and it shows that if America is now so anti french then the government can&#39;t stoop much lower.

Bush has been far from humane throughout his life why change now he has backed himsekf into a bloodlust of revenge.