Fbi Adds To Wiretap Wish List: Your Cable And Dsl

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Originally posted by J&#39;Pol+14 March 2004 - 20:43--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (J&#39;Pol @ 14 March 2004 - 20:43)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-haxor41789@15 March 2004 - 01:41
But is already in place.

How many of you have heard of the Tempest project?

Not me, could you elucidate please ? [/b][/quote]
The Tempest project

[muchspl2]

Originally posted by shn+17 March 2004 - 23:04--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (shn @ 17 March 2004 - 23:04)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Alex H@17 March 2004 - 21:46
A question for the Americans: I&#39;ve heard that law enforcement authorities can&#39;t open your mail without a warrant. As email is considered a legally valid form of communication, (ie. you can inform someone in writing by sending them an email) does that mean that the FBI or someone else has the right to open your (e)mail without a warrant?

I think they technically need a court order to present to the isp of the person&#39;s email they want to intercept or read.

The best solution is to just encrypt it anyway. However, Americans can not send any type of encrypted data beyond certain U.S. borders due to encryption export laws. [/b][/quote]
thats not true, with the patriot act, they can get warrants/search/DETAIN everything if you&#39;re a terrorist
with no judge are court order

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And then they can use that secret evidence to try you in a secret court with a secret verdict and secretly punish you.

Shortly after 9/11, a Pakistani friend of mine got arrested. Nobody, including his family has heard news of him in 2 1/2 years.

[leftism]

Originally posted by muchspl2
thats not true, with the patriot act, they can get warrants/search/DETAIN everything if you&#39;re a terrorist with no judge are court order

ahh yes the "patriot" act. What a misnomer&#33; The RIP act in the UK is just as bad ("black box" recorders on all ISP networks) but at least it&#39;s aptly named.

[shn]

Originally posted by muchspl2+17 March 2004 - 23:20--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (muchspl2 &#064; 17 March 2004 - 23:20)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by shn@17 March 2004 - 23:04
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@17 March 2004 - 21:46
A question for the Americans: I&#39;ve heard that law enforcement authorities can&#39;t open your mail without a warrant. As email is considered a legally valid form of communication, (ie. you can inform someone in writing by sending them an email) does that mean that the FBI or someone else has the right to open your (e)mail without a warrant?

I think they technically need a court order to present to the isp of the person&#39;s email they want to intercept or read.

The best solution is to just encrypt it anyway. However, Americans can not send any type of encrypted data beyond certain U.S. borders due to encryption export laws.

thats not true, with the patriot act, they can get warrants/search/DETAIN everything if you&#39;re a terrorist
with no judge are court order[/b][/quote]
I somewhat agree. But the patriot act is still getting critism and once again, for basic people like you they will not need the patriot act and I highly doubt they would risk abusing the patriot act for a typical American.

It does not take long to get a court order, especially at the federal level. Once that is attained you are pretty much screwed.

If you consider yourself as dangerous or as hideous as a terrorist then maybe you will get the luxury of the patriot act.

Until then, I would not loose any sleep over it.

[leftism]

Originally posted by shn
I somewhat agree. But the patriot act is still getting critism and once again, for basic people like you they will not need the patriot act and I highly doubt they would risk abusing the patriot act for a typical American.

It&#39;s already happening. The guy who runs the "Raise the Fist" website is being prosecuted under the Patriot act for posting "terrorist material" on his website.

In this case "terrorist material" means a small text file similar in content to the Jolly Rogers Cookbook.

[muchspl2]

its stuff like this that fall&#39;s under most people&#39;s radar
they are slowly taking away more and more freedoms
what about this FCC bill coming up, if passed the government can shut you down with excessive fines

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Originally posted by leftism
In this case "terrorist material" means a small text file similar in content to the Jolly Rogers Cookbook.

Things like JRC and The Poor Man&#39;s James Bond are terrorism.

But the fourth is gone already, why don&#39;t we hit up the first?

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I suppose that&#39;s why it&#39;s always good to just stay out the limelight then.

Nowadays if you want attention it&#39;s not too hard to get it.

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i thought they already watched us. they read our emails