Okay, I'm Making My First Web Site

[h1]

Originally posted by mikenmike0001@3 April 2004 - 04:05
i really need to figure out how to do that thing where people who look at your website can't use the right mouse click key.....that comes in very handy, i've seen sites where they disable entering in keyboard typed letters as well......good for security and rip off reasons, (even though they can view the source)

"Encryption" is not only impossible, but it sucks and makes your site less accessible to uses.

[mikenmike0001]

well...what do you mean it's "impossible", how's that? plus, um....i kinda want it to be not accessible to viewers, that's the point of privacy......i just wnat them to be able to view it, without getting to "right click" "save as" or , go to view and "file source" and read it off.....i mean, there's has to be a way to do it.......isn't there like some html coding i can throw in? i'm still learning the basics right now online, so i don't know how to do the stuff yet, i was hoping someone here could help...

[h1]

Trust me. It's impossible.

One end of the spectrum is mildly annoying "encryption" that doesn't work. The other end is encryption that works, but will piss off users to no end and alienate half of the browsers.

IMHO, "encryption" shouldn't be used client-side at all... and even when it is it should be like this.

[blunt_on_tour]

Do as most of the rest have said and learn a bit of html - use cheatsheets as reference guides until you've sussed it good I found the http://www.webmonkey.com site invaluable when I was trying to learn; sadly I see that's it's going to be shutting down soon because Lycos has pulled the plug

Anyway, take a look at this page too http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/02/32/....html?tw=design it covers the mythical scenario of having to build a website from scratch in one day and spending no more than a dollar. What I suggest you do is download a couple of the templates from the sites listed on the second or third page of the article, and then experiment by opening the pages of html in Notepad and messing around changing bits, to see what happens. Use 'Save as' to save the changed pages under a different name and then click on them in the directory to see the changes displayed in your web browser.

There are some handy resources here too http://www.w3schools.com/ you can try out changes you make in one half of the screen and see what effect it has on the other half of the screen. When you've got what you want you just copy the code from the online page and paste it into your own page.

When you've sussed it a bit more, you can hunt around to get scripts and stuff to add to your pages, to make them more exciting.

There are a few easy to apply effects here http://www.webdevelopersjournal.com/wacky/wacky.html that will make your pages fade and fold and all sorts of weird shit

Good luck

[4th gen]

Originally posted by mikenmike0001@13 April 2004 - 04:12
well...what do you mean it's "impossible", how's that? plus, um....i kinda want it to be not accessible to viewers, that's the point of privacy......i just wnat them to be able to view it, without getting to "right click" "save as" or , go to view and "file source" and read it off.....i mean, there's has to be a way to do it.......isn't there like some html coding i can throw in? i'm still learning the basics right now online, so i don't know how to do the stuff yet, i was hoping someone here could help...

Attempting to stop users "stealing" your page by stopping them right clicking is just idiotic. It pisses them off and doesn't stop people stealing your source, images etc

[blunt_on_tour]

Originally posted by mikenmike0001@13 April 2004 - 05:12
well...what do you mean it's "impossible", how's that? plus, um....i kinda want it to be not accessible to viewers, that's the point of privacy......i just wnat them to be able to view it, without getting to "right click" "save as" or , go to view and "file source" and read it off.....i mean, there's has to be a way to do it.......isn't there like some html coding i can throw in? i'm still learning the basics right now online, so i don't know how to do the stuff yet, i was hoping someone here could help...

As haxor said - no chance Doesn't matter what you do, anybody who's got half a clue can rip whatever they want. I do it all the time with 'protected content' - there's always a way around it, and the harder you try to stop it, the more you'll piss eveybody else off that views your site. Bottom line is; if you don't want people to have it, don't put it up there

To simply hide stuff from everyday visitors, don't link to the sensitive content from your main page; just save the pages in a different directory in your file manager and don't link to them. It's not bullet-proof, but it'll hide stuff from everyday guests, and you can still give the url to people you want to see it. But if anybody wants it badly enough, they'll find a way.
Just having webspiders crawling over your site might result in some of your hidden content appearing on somebody's search page when Googling, so be careful what you choose to upload; you never know where you might see it next

[gungrave]

Originally posted by blunt_on_tour+13 April 2004 - 22:53--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (blunt_on_tour @ 13 April 2004 - 22:53)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-mikenmike0001@13 April 2004 - 05:12
well...what do you mean it&#39;s "impossible", how&#39;s that?&nbsp; plus, um....i kinda want it to be not accessible to viewers, that&#39;s the point of privacy......i just wnat them to be able to view it, without getting to "right click" "save as" or , go to view and "file source" and read it off.....i mean, there&#39;s has to be a way to do it.......isn&#39;t there like some html coding i can throw in? i&#39;m still learning the basics right now online, so i don&#39;t know how to do the stuff yet, i was hoping someone here could help...

As haxor said - no chance Doesn&#39;t matter what you do, anybody who&#39;s got half a clue can rip whatever they want. I do it all the time with &#39;protected content&#39; - there&#39;s always a way around it, and the harder you try to stop it, the more you&#39;ll piss eveybody else off that views your site. Bottom line is; if you don&#39;t want people to have it, don&#39;t put it up there

To simply hide stuff from everyday visitors, don&#39;t link to the sensitive content from your main page; just save the pages in a different directory in your file manager and don&#39;t link to them. It&#39;s not bullet-proof, but it&#39;ll hide stuff from everyday guests, and you can still give the url to people you want to see it. But if anybody wants it badly enough, they&#39;ll find a way.
Just having webspiders crawling over your site might result in some of your hidden content appearing on somebody&#39;s search page when Googling, so be careful what you choose to upload; you never know where you might see it next [/b][/quote]

[mikenmike0001]

oh darn it i didn&#39;t know that....ah.......so i have no protection, well.....very little....hm........i&#39;ll have to think of something

[SeK612]

Don&#39;t bother with protection too much. As said before its a great way to annoy visitors and get the to leave (no right click scripts are a great example of this). You can get a certain level of protection but most people with a knowledge of websites can get around it pretty easily. Besides if you put the effort in to making your site good and original the any "rips" won&#39;t be as good