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pol - What are you using to create the sigs you posted?
Adobe Photoshop? Paint Shop Pro? Other?
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Originally posted by blunt on tour+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (blunt on tour)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>The transparency problem, I think, is caused by too low a quality in the 'save for web' stage
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I think the jagged edges are down to pasting a 72dpi image onto a 300dpi canvas - if I paste 'like to like' it looks a lot better, but I still get the problem if I transform the image by pulling it or pushing it - I think a lot of that's down to trying to manipulate a low rez image.[/b]
yep the output settings will affect the edges/shadows because of the lower amount of colours etc, but there should still be transparency - if there's not it must be a setting. sorry if it sounds obvious, but is the transparency box ticked in the saving options? (photoshop) -

the jagged edges will be as you said, importing the lower res image
a way to get round that, if its not a photo - and you have the time
, like with a design or shape you want to import, is to drag it on to your higher res pic, transform it as big as you need even though it's big and blocky, then turn down the opacity in that layer, just visible enough to work on top of it
then just use that layer as a template/guide and draw the image again on a new layer using paths, marquee selections with a stroke etc, then just fill it with gradients/textures/fills or whatever. using Mïcrösöül°V³'s sig as an example, if you saw a photo of a tattoo with the design you like, just drag the layer in, blow it up, drop the opacity and 'trace' over the image, then you have a good, big image that wont get messed up as much by transforming
illustrator is ideal for doing this, photoshop is good enough for tracing round designs/logos but illustrator can get as good as real photos, as its vector based and because of it's tools and gradients. it can be fairly complicated, but there are some excellent tutorial programs and even 2/3 hour videos on emule etc, look for 'adobe illustrator/photoshop total training', lots of it around. overkill for what we're talking about, but it's excellent
Originally posted by blunt on tour@
I've since tried optimizing in Imageready, using the export optimized wizard tool thing (whatever it's called) and it seems a lot better.
not sure if you already do this with imageready, but i find it the easiest way to make changes is to have the 'optimize' box checked in the 'window' menu (not sure if it's on by default), so you have this toolbox to work with..

..then it's easy to make any changes - and to see if it's good/small enough with the settings used, go to 'file' menu, 'preview in..' your browser. mess around with all the settings/levels like 'lossy', 'dither' etc till you get what you need
and with the animated sig, thats just 2 basic flash text effects with this - magic flare converted to gif's with this - magic swf2gif then tidied up and optimized with imageready
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pol - What are you using to create the sigs you posted?
Adobe Photoshop? Paint Shop Pro? Other? [/quote]
i did those with photoshop Samurai, radial gradients on the bottom layer of both, and the text 'streaks' on the blue one are 'alien eye candy - motion trail' plugins
the tribal thing is just filled circles/elipses using the selection tool then filling, then move the selection a bit and hit backspace to delete the selection, leaving just the edge, then adding some layer styles like bevels and shadows from the 'layer' menu
main thing is to start them off much bigger than they'll be when finished, like 3x or more. then before you resize to finish, 'flatten' or 'merge visible' from the layer menu, otherwise the layer effects stay big and the bevels etc look out of proportion
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Thanks for the detailed reply, pol 
Yeah, I always have the transparency box checked. Guess I'll just have to sit down and experiment a bit more to see what's going wrong. I'll read what you've said in more detail later - right now I've got to go to work (late already
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Thanks for the help.
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Phew...it's taken me a while to get back and read the post thoroughly: I've been working on making a website in Photoshop and then slicing it up into a web template using Imageready - gave me a few headaches, because it's the first time I've tried to do it, but I think it looks OK, and I got a real buzz out of seeing it up and working on the server with all the button rollovers in action. Made the mistake of doing button rollovers before I'd finished editing the slices, so the javascript got thrown all out of whack when I optimised it 
I'm not sure if I've got Illustrator; I don't think so, but I'll have a look around for it. It's a big con that they don't give you everything you need in Photoshop really, isn't it? For what they expect you to pay for it, you should get the full deal.
Thanks again for the tips - I'll try them out next time I fire it up
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