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[james_bond_rulez]

clocker i'd suggest you dont waste your time on this crappy project

i've been following along on this little tweaking journey of urs and found it to be an utter waste of my reading time

I admire your enthusiasm in hardware but I'd say it's a pretty good excise for you if you dont have a job and has done every bit of house work you can ever think of

You had a pretty good run with the Zalman water cooling solution and the results seemed promising but not sure why u abandoned that plan (too lazy to go back and read AGAIN)

the improvised plan seemed awkward and untidy with all the fans sticking out of the most unusual places, namely, the video card cooling fan, effectively blocking all potential PCI upgrading space. and the combined noise from all 8 of ur fans I can only imagine to be loud and out of place.

The whole design, overall, can only be described as oddly creative, suiting to your personality, I suppose. But who can beat the originality of your creative thoughts and design?

A good effort though, my applauds to you.

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@11 June 2004 - 10:40
... found it to be an utter waste of my reading time

So don't read it then.


Its easy to talk, but I don't see your efforts here. If you cannot respect peoples projects, then STFU.

Clocker is doing something not just criticizing.

[james_bond_rulez]

coming from you I am hardly offended. I am simply exercising my first amendment of the Constitution, which is freedom of speech. If you can't allow criticisms then why bother being an admin moderating the forum at all? Just delete all the posts as you wish.

[lynx]

JBR, I couldn't agree with you less regarding the fans thing.

I've been a little dubious myself since I haven't gone to the same amount of trouble as clocker, but the last few days have convinced me.

Recent hot weather has caused me problems with my secondary (air cooled) pc, basically freezing for no apparent reason. Unfortunately since it is running Linux and I haven't yet worked out how to do it I haven't got any temp monitors, and by the time I've noticed that it has hung the temps (in bios) have been reasonable.

I decided to do a little investigating, it didn't take much to find that my hd temp was way above normal (probably approaching 60C from the feel of it) even though it has a twin fan hd cooler attached. Note, this hd was in my other pc until I got the SATA unit a couple of months ago, and there were no noticable temp problems.

Removing the cover has brought the hd temp down to around 30C. Admittedly air temp has dropped by about 10C, but that still leaves a 20C temp difference yet there seems to be plenty of airflow through the case, and the exhaust air with the cover on was not particularly warm.

The ONLY conclusion is that the hd cooler is simply recirculating the same air over and over, with the airstream from the input fan to the exhaust fan totally bypassing the hd.

I think this is where clocker's fan experiments have shown their worth, I will now be trying similar tests, I can't help feeling that a couple of carefully placed fans will totally change the characteristics of the case, even running at only 7v and therefore virtually silent.

[james_bond_rulez]

so are you saying that average consumers need to learn all these "tweakings" now to have their computers working propery, because summer is coming?

Manufacturers dont just build the components to "fuck up" just because customers dont know how to learn all the fancy ways to install fans in their computers. Sure, you can go to FutureShop and buy yourself a fancy computer at an overpriced cost and they expect you to come back with computer problems and they say to your face, "I am sorry, we can't take your computer back because you didn't take the nessary steps to cool down your computer"

it's rather silly, really.

[lynx]

Most people on these pages build their own pc's. They buy a generic case which has moint points for a number of fans, but since they don't know what is going to be put inside they give you NO guidance on fan placement etc.

That's a little different from buying a ready-built pc, so if they get the cooling wrong then it is their own fault.

This case didn't have a fan at the front when I first got it, but I wanted it to run a little cooler so that I could overclock. I haven't overclocked yet, but things seem worse than the original layout.

If you think it is silly to try and improve your pc, that's your opinion. But I don't see you putting any effort in here so STFU.

And don't come asking for help if you get any problems yourself, I think you will find it is too much time and effort for anyone to be bothered with you.

[Virtualbody1234]

More fans and larger ones at slower speeds makes the total sound level drop, not rise. So it you want a quiet PC then this kind of tweaking is the way to go.

In fact... I know for sure that my PC, that has more fans, is way quieter than a prebuilt PC.

[Virtualbody1234]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@11 June 2004 - 11:20
I am simply exercising my first amendment of the Constitution, which is freedom of speech.

That would be the case if this was a forum for USA use only. This is an international board.

[lynx]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234+11 June 2004 - 19:15--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Virtualbody1234 @ 11 June 2004 - 19:15)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-james_bond_rulez@11 June 2004 - 11:20
I am simply exercising my first amendment of the Constitution, which is freedom of speech.

That would be the case if this was a forum for USA use only. This is an international board. [/b][/quote]
I thought he was from Canada anyway.

[tesco]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@11 June 2004 - 11:40
the improvised plan seemed awkward and untidy with all the fans sticking out of the most unusual places, namely, the video card cooling fan, effectively blocking all potential PCI upgrading space. and the combined noise from all 8 of ur fans I can only imagine to be loud and out of place.

Clocker&#39;s cases have always been really neat and tidy, except for in "beta stages"...

If you had been reading his "progress reports" then you would have known that what he is going for right now is silence in his PC. His fans are obviously running at 7v r lower, and i do beleive he has a fan speed controller so some could be higher but i doubt it.

The PCI upgrading space comment, well that one i can agree with you on, but with todays motherboards it is unneeded to update stuff via PCI, although usually if you want extra features form your onboard stuff you will need to buy a PCI card. But for clocker, he knows he is not going to need any PCI cards any time soon, and if he did he could easily just make a new design for cooling the video card.