Sprocket's New Home

[james_bond_rulez]

maybe I didn't read his latest ventures due to the forum backup. However I still wonder why he abandoned the water cooling solution...

when he first posted pics of his water cooled rig I was thoroghly impressed and the results seemed nice...

I did recall something being "broken", maybe that's why he switched?

ya he is creative about the fans but I wonder where is he gonna put PCI upgrades like wireless PCI network card or TV tuners, things that will increase the entertainment values of his pc a lot more than status quo...

oh and VB, i dont really care if it is international board or USA boards, freedom of speech still applies. You as a Canadian should know better. Now stfu about the "stfus"

[tesco]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@11 June 2004 - 19:31
maybe I didn't read his latest ventures due to the forum backup. However I still wonder why he abandoned the water cooling solution...

when he first posted pics of his water cooled rig I was thoroghly impressed and the results seemed nice...

I did recall something being "broken", maybe that's why he switched?

ya he is creative about the fans but I wonder where is he gonna put PCI upgrades like wireless PCI network card or TV tuners, things that will increase the entertainment values of his pc a lot more than status quo...

oh and VB, i dont really care if it is international board or USA boards, freedom of speech still applies. You as a Canadian should know better. Now stfu about the "stfus"

well, actually, he started going for a silent rig either at the start of THIS THREAD or before this thread...

[clocker]

Originally posted by james_bond_rulez@11 June 2004 - 09:40
clocker i'd suggest you dont waste your time on this crappy project

i've been following along on this little tweaking journey of urs and found it to be an utter waste of my reading time

James,

Crappy as it may be, the Gateway is fast becoming my favorite of all Sprocket's cases.
Rossco is correct, the primary goal of this effort is cooling AND silence with the added complication of trying to keep the case visually stock.
I'm just learning as I go here and I enjoy airing out my pratfalls in public.
Sorry if this particular journey is not to your liking, but I can't help the weird side paths that my experimenting follows.
Maybe my next go-round will be more to your liking.

Manufacturers dont just build the components to "fuck up" just because customers dont know how to learn all the fancy ways to install fans in their computers. Sure, you can go to FutureShop and buy yourself a fancy computer at an overpriced cost and they expect you to come back with computer problems and they say to your face, "I am sorry, we can't take your computer back because you didn't take the nessary steps to cool down your computer"

You're right.
They would much prefer that their units "fuck up" the day after the warrenty expires.
I have installed SpeedFan on 3 major manufacturer (Dell, Compaq and eMachines)
PCs in my neighborhood.
Not so the owners can control their fans, but so I can see the temps.
One box runs an AMD chip and the other two are Intels.
All three idle in the low 50's and who knows how hot they get under load.
Clearly they can survive these elevated temps, but I see no reason they should have to.
BTW, I would consider all three of those PCs to be much louder than Sprocket has ever been.

Lynx,

The ONLY conclusion is that the hd cooler is simply recirculating the same air over and over, with the airstream from the input fan to the exhaust fan totally bypassing the hd.

The bane of all my air-cooled cases has been their utter dependence on cool incoming air. Airflow itself is useless if the flow is hot.
I would suggest that your flow is not bypassing the HDD, but is being preheated by the case ambient air creating a death spiral tempwise for your case.
Good luck in your search for a solution, I would enjoy hearing how it goes (good or bad).

Sadly, JBR will probably be bored, but you can't win 'em all.

[james_bond_rulez]

so wut happened to your water cooler?

why did u switch to air cooling?

[FlyingDutchman]

Originally posted by clocker@3 May 2004 - 04:41
Sorry...couldn't resist.
I've been tinkering with the balance of my fan speeds and I think I finally hit the "sweet spot".

Nonsense !

Here Clocker was far and far away from silent rig.
First I would like to know what ambient temps were before I comment further, but these are suspect at least.

Sorry for being sceptical, but it seems a fairy tale.

[tesco]

Originally posted by FlyingDutchman+11 June 2004 - 21:09--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (FlyingDutchman &#064; 11 June 2004 - 21:09)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-clocker@3 May 2004 - 04:41
Sorry...couldn&#39;t resist.
I&#39;ve been tinkering with the balance of my fan speeds and I think I finally hit the "sweet spot".

Nonsense &#33;

Here Clocker was far and far away from silent rig.
First I would like to know what ambient temps were before I comment further, but these are suspect at least.

Sorry for being sceptical, but it seems a fairy tale. [/b][/quote]
could have been loud at this time, but the point still is that clocker was going for a silent rig at this time, not that it WAS silent at that time...(not that i really remember when that was posted lol)...

[Virtualbody1234]

oh and VB, i dont really care if it is international board or USA boards, freedom of speech still applies. You as a Canadian should know better. Now stfu about the "stfus"

To be rude is not acceptable. Post you opinions in a respectful manner.

It&#39;s my role as a moderator to manage what goes on in this Hardwareworld. I would prefer to let you understand where I stand so that you can post accordingly rather than editing or deleting your posts. Or taking further action should I see the need.

@ clocker, sorry for posting off topic and also not getting back to you yet. I&#39;ve been quite busy.

[james_bond_rulez]

Originally posted by Virtualbody1234@11 June 2004 - 18:21

oh and VB, i dont really care if it is international board or USA boards, freedom of speech still applies. You as a Canadian should know better. Now stfu about the "stfus"

To be rude is not acceptable. Post you opinions in a respectful manner.

It&#39;s my role as a moderator to manage what goes on in this Hardwareworld. I would prefer to let you understand where I stand so that you can post accordingly rather than editing or deleting your posts. Or taking further action should I see the need.

@ clocker, sorry for posting off topic and also not getting back to you yet. I&#39;ve been quite busy.

well if you dont want me to be disrespectable then why did u lead such a bad example?

I expected better from you VB

[lynx]

This is my theory of the original airflow with only an exhaust fan.


This is what I think is happening with an added input fan.


As you can see the majority of the airflow is bypassing the hdd. In fact, since the PSU is one with only a "front to rear" air path I suspect it is also bypassing the cpu, and consequently creating additional hotspots.

Since this system is not particularly important to me (at the moment, it is only Folding) I intend try to investigate this phenomenon thoroughly. I&#39;ve got a spare temp probe, with a bit of logic I should be able to work out how to measure the temps using my multimeter (comparative should be ok anyway since I&#39;m trying to map airflow).

I fully appreciate what you are saying about hot air intake, I have been very careful to ensure that the exhaust air cannot recirculate back to the intake. This itself may be part of the problem. As far as I can tell my case is now totally sealed apart from the inlet and exhaust fans, so the other small amounts of incoming air shown in the second diagram may actually be non-existant.

I strongly suspect that some vanes to direct air around the case may have a dramatic effect. Time (and some pieces of card) will tell.

[tesco]

Multimeters work as temp probes ?

how? can i do this with mine too or do i need a special one&#092;special attachment???