Ron Atkinson

[zacspeed]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/t...dio/3648051.stm

Football pundit Ron Atkinson has left ITV and the Guardian over a racist comment about a black Chelsea player.

ITV said Mr Atkinson was "devastated and very sorry" after a comment made in the wake of Chelsea's Champions League game against Monaco on Tuesday.

Do you think he is right to quit his job over this?

[4th gen]

Of course! He should have been sacked straight away

[Biggles]

The "n" word is generally considered pretty bad these days. He had little option.

[Rat Faced]

Better to resign than be sacked.

[zacspeed]

Just one random google found

You Can't Diss Me
by 2 Pac

Album : 



nigger you can diss me and diss me again
but won't stop so nigger fuck you and fuck
you and fuck you again.I'm the illest fillest
nigger called E-Z the illest fillest lil kidG
there Is nothing wrong with me there is
something wrong with you so nigger fuck you
what's wrong with me pulling my pants down
under my ass up down to my knee's with a
extra large shirt and to with ass nike's on my
feet that's just me!!
even my mama doesn't tell  me what to do
so who the fuck are you to tell me what I can
and can't do you ain't god you ain't jezus and
you ain't my dade so nigger don't make me
made.I'ts all like clommelenady I'ts all about
my body,sweet body prettty face and I'f gate
the cashe to bounce your girl's ass.
and I'f you whone kill me I'm E-Z the lilkidG
love is like kid's in gang's.you are that bad to
diss me behind my back but are you that bad
to diss me in my face too, you sick bastard and if
you don't like me because I said that you are a
sick nigger then you can suck a dick nigger

niggaz can't stand me E-Z the lilkidG
niggaz whone kill me E-Z the lilkidG
by that name you'll  remember me
you can diss me and diss me again
but I wont stop being the lilkidG
I'll still be the illefillest nigger called E-Z
the lilkidG...

nigger you whone diss me make sure that I don't
diss you disss me like you are running me over with
a rover then its all over do you wanna kill me get a
get yourself a gun and make sure that I die and
let no motherfucking blacktear drip from my eye I'll
be a true playboy untill the day that I die and that
will be the day that I wry  4 my niggaz the day that
I'll die 4 my niggaz all you bitches and bitchass niggaz
no that I aint the prettiest are the badest but by this
shit you are making me the madest
clommelenady its like 12 gunshots in your body
there is no with man are nigger that haves to fear me 
lord can you hear me

I am sure I would have found a million other rap songs that use that word,
so, how come it's ok for a black guy to use the word "Nigger" but not Ron Atkinson?

Please don't get me wrong on this, I am really on the fence on this one, but I do feel this is a bit of a double standard.

[4th gen]

Originally posted by zacspeed@22 April 2004 - 18:55
Please don't get me wrong on this, I am really on the fence on this one, but I do feel this is a bit of a double standard.

Of course there's a double standard on this issue.

For a white person to say "nigg*r" is unacceptable but for a black person to say it is slightly more acceptable. However, if a black person says "crack*r", it's basically the same as a white person saying "nigg*r". Racism is relative

[J'Pol]

I have read the source and cannot see a quote of what he actually said, or the context in which he said it.

Could someone enlighten me.

There is a distinction between making racist comments and having racist beliefs.

I for one use terms which could be considered sectarian, I call friends huns for example. They call me a tague. Neither I, nor they consider ourselves to have sectarian beliefs. I would not do it to a stranger.

You may disagree with this position, I could fully understand that. However if it does not offend them or me then it really is our own business.

I obviously appreciate the difference when it is broadcast on radio or television, whether intentional or not. I agree if he used the "n word" he absolutely had to go. However I will not brand him a racist on that alone.

Insensitive, stupid, ill-informed and old fashioned, maybe. However it's what is in his heart that makes him racist. Given the number of black players he has employed and developed and who speak so highly of him, I find that charge hard to believe.

[zacspeed]

I beleive the comment was: "He is what's known as a f****** lazy n****"

[ilw]

Originally posted by J&#39;Pol+22 April 2004 - 20:12--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (J&#39;Pol &#064; 22 April 2004 - 20:12)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Insensitive, stupid, ill-informed and old fashioned, maybe. However it&#39;s what is in his heart that makes him racist. [/b]

I basically agree, but i can&#39;t help thinking that what he says behind what he thought were closed doors, is very illustrative of his views. Practically everyone in this country must work with people of other races, and they can get along just fine, but a certain percentage of those people are legitimately racist, but simply not open about it. Anyone who doesn&#39;t know him personally can&#39;t say whether he&#39;s racist at heart from the little we know of him, including this remark, but the quote is pretty damning.

btw i think the actual quote was
<!--QuoteBegin-Ron Atkinson

"He&#39;s what is known in some schools as a fucking lazy thick nigger"[/quote]

Oh and apparently this was transmitted not only over britain, but over other parts of the world including the middle east.

[SeK612]

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